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Offline harmon712

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Syncing audio with video
« on: February 24, 2015, 10:11:50 PM »
This is my first time trying to sync audio with video using iMovie.  I think it looks like I did ok, here are links to the videos...

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01 Medicated Goo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y0kLUtHIh4
02 The Way The Homies Do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QApt3KzSj8
03 Earth Moving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USCkq0iJSx4
04 Feeling Good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_sgJVEDMv0
05 Paint The Town https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxxlOPfzGig
06 Haystack w/ Joe Marcinek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzJQtN93TNY
07 Ship Captain Crew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODU4ELBajE
08 Showdown w/ Stephan Cook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSGbjguoNb8
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 12:39:03 PM »
Seems right on the first tune.  A little distance in the shot makes it infinitely easier (close ups are where it gets most sensitive).  The guitarist gets the Winwood style of playing better than most. 
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 10:38:32 PM »
The drummer is the key!  It's really the easiest instrument to base a synch on. 
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 08:12:57 AM »
The drummer is the key!  It's really the easiest instrument to base a synch on.
agreed
If you can see AND hear snar hits, I find that's the best bet
If you are going to do lots of video stuff I highly recommend Final Cut Pro which has a built in multi cam/synch portion
Works awesome imo. There is plural eyes too but I don't know if it works with iMovie and isn't needed for fcp
If you really want to make life easy run an attenuator into the mic in on your r500(assuming the 620 has an out). Then the only thing you might have to do is adjust the ENTIRE audio track once for delay
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 01:47:04 AM »
Thank you, I've noticed with iMoive it's always going to be slightly off.  I'm going to put Final Cut Pro or at least some kind of video editing software that's better than iMovie on my list of things to buy.  For right now I'm ok with using what I have.

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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2015, 12:20:33 PM »
The drummer is the key!  It's really the easiest instrument to base a synch on.
agreed

If you can see AND hear snar hits, I find that's the best bet

When watching the drummer, I can always tell right away if the audio is off (even by a tiny fraction of a second).  Sometimes, however, it can be kind of hard to tell if what you're hearing is slightly behind or slightly ahead of the drummer.  A work around I found for this is to play air drums while watching the drummer and make adjustments until your arm movements matches the drummer's arm movements.
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2015, 03:06:36 PM »
I've been using FCP for a number of years, and am stuck on FCP7 due to lack of time in investing in learning the new version.  So...I use Plural Eyes to handle a lot of the syncing.  Another note, if you shoot a video screen, or from a great distance, the audio will of course be out of sync. 

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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 08:58:06 PM »
I've been using FCP for a number of years, and am stuck on FCP7 due to lack of time in investing in learning the new version.  So...I use Plural Eyes to handle a lot of the syncing.  Another note, if you shoot a video screen, or from a great distance, the audio will of course be out of sync.
imho fcpx blows 7 away in regard to most things
The only thing I have not figured out in x is how to do things like "zoom" a video in, say to crop out the VHS digi noise on the bottom of the screen. If I had to do it more I would figure it out
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2015, 07:54:57 AM »
The only thing I have not figured out in x is how to do things like "zoom" a video in, say to crop out the VHS digi noise on the bottom of the screen. If I had to do it more I would figure it out

In Sony Vegas Video, you use "Sony border" to do this.  Of course, they are two different programs, so I wouldn't expect it to be exactly the same.  But do a search within the functions called "border" and that might be the ticket.
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2015, 07:03:23 AM »
The only thing I have not figured out in x is how to do things like "zoom" a video in, say to crop out the VHS digi noise on the bottom of the screen. If I had to do it more I would figure it out

In Sony Vegas Video, you use "Sony border" to do this.  Of course, they are two different programs, so I wouldn't expect it to be exactly the same.  But do a search within the functions called "border" and that might be the ticket.
thanks for the tip
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2015, 04:24:05 PM »
Even though I mainly do 1 cam shoots, I have the Pluraleyes plugin for Sony Vegas, and I usually run that first to get it close. Sometimes it's perfect, other times it's off a little. Occasionally it doesn't seem to be able to sync at all but with a little practice, it's an easy process manually.

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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2015, 10:07:10 AM »
Folks that use iMovie love fcpx for the easy transition to it and added features. Fcp7 uses hate it and have moved to adobe premiere. You should watch a tutorial/intro video for several of the available programs to help you decide which is right for you.

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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2015, 09:39:31 AM »
Folks that use iMovie love fcpx for the easy transition to it and added features. Fcp7 uses hate it and have moved to adobe premiere. You should watch a tutorial/intro video for several of the available programs to help you decide which is right for you.
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I hade fcp5 then 7
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Went to iMovie 9 and hated it
Got fcpx and forced myself to get the hang of lining things up and now like it
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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2015, 06:03:37 PM »
Folks that use iMovie love fcpx for the easy transition to it and added features. Fcp7 uses hate it and have moved to adobe premiere. You should watch a tutorial/intro video for several of the available programs to help you decide which is right for you.

Count me among the longtime Final Cut Pro users who changed to Adobe Premiere after trying FCPX.  Actually I have two operating systems on my mac, and switch I switch to the older one occasionally to do standard def stuff in FCP7.  I also use FCP7 for these high def commercials I make for car dealerships, just because I know the program so much better after fifteen years.  But the old OS can't handle the multi-cam high def music stuff, so I have to do that in Premiere.  But it's really frustrating because Premiere takes twice as many steps to do music edits as FCP.  I still like Final Cut a lot more.  I'd give just about anything for a FCP 8.

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Re: Syncing audio with video
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2015, 09:01:59 PM »
Even though I mainly do 1 cam shoots, I have the Pluraleyes plugin for Sony Vegas, and I usually run that first to get it close. Sometimes it's perfect, other times it's off a little. Occasionally it doesn't seem to be able to sync at all but with a little practice, it's an easy process manually.

That's what I do as well.
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