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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2015, 07:36:24 PM »
That is an inappropriate use of Community Audio. CA should only be used if you are the artist  yourself (in the band), not for artists that are not on the LMA. Cam, please don't use CA the way jefflester suggested.

This guy was already informed of that and does it anyway. Widespread and Black Keys anyone?

https://archive.org/details/GD2015-05-14.DearJerryFareTheeWellMerriWheaterPostPavillionMatrix
https://archive.org/details/TBK2014-06-06.TheBlackKeysMountainJamXISuperluxS502

I wish I could get through to him. We've addressed it many times but he simply does not want to follow the rules. It seems more important that he promote his recordings than to comply with the rules.

ETA: To cite Widespread on the Dear Jerry show is a bit of an exaggeration. While the recording does not belong on CA, WSP was only one song. What if the show was uploaded to Bill Kreutzmann or Bob Weir?
How is it an exaggeration? They've declined to be included in the LMA. Do you think it makes a difference to them that it's only one song? edit - shouldn't matter whose collection it's filed under, if archive.org claims to be opt-in, and a band has opted out, it's poor form for them to be on the site.
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2015, 07:47:19 PM »
Yes, I think it is an exaggeration to refer to the Dear Jerry show as "Widespread Panic." A more accurate representation would have been "a mix of LMA and non-LMA artists."

I don't disagree with you. It does not belong on the LMA. That being said, I can't say there isn't some Widespread Panic song included in some other artist's collection. We don't inspect every upload to the LMA and CA. If the upload was put under Bob Weir and WSP contacted the LMA to have their track removed, it would be done so without any question. But, to me, it is a different perspective than parking it in CA because you didn't know where to put it or because you know it doesn't belong on the LMA.
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2015, 07:48:50 PM »
Do you think LMA would be willing to host a page that is specifically for this series? It's only 10 shows a year and they are all very good.

If you had the permission from each artist, it may be possible. But, then we are back to the LMA permission piece again.
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2015, 07:49:36 PM »
Yes, I think it is an exaggeration to refer to the Dear Jerry show as "Widespread Panic." A more accurate representation would have been "a mix of LMA and non-LMA artists."
OK, I guess I need to strive for 100% accuracy here, even in cases where you clearly know what I mean, and the outcome is the same.  :facepalm:
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2015, 03:43:39 PM »
I actually visited the Archive.org HQ last fall for a special event, "Building Libraries Together," and was EXTREMELY surprised to be advised during a conversation about my recordings to post any live audio I wanted under Community Audio.

I have not done so, but it's been on my mind a lot. I wonder where we can host ROIOs and liberated bootlegs? I think it would be fantastic if there was a site like archive.org for "Recordings Of Indeterminate Origin" but I did not want to compromise the integrity of the LMA project on one person's advice...

The only things I've used C.A. for are studio and demo releases from LMA bands, with their full permission, and lossy items with the same criteria.
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2015, 01:34:08 PM »


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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2015, 08:05:00 PM »
I actually visited the Archive.org HQ last fall for a special event, "Building Libraries Together," and was EXTREMELY surprised to be advised during a conversation about my recordings to post any live audio I wanted under Community Audio.

I have not done so, but it's been on my mind a lot. I wonder where we can host ROIOs and liberated bootlegs?

   8)  Whaaaaaaa........can you let us in on a bit more of your conversation?

This could be a great boost for all those "almost lost" recordings out there.  They need a home.
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2015, 02:03:33 AM »
I actually visited the Archive.org HQ last fall for a special event, "Building Libraries Together," and was EXTREMELY surprised to be advised during a conversation about my recordings to post any live audio I wanted under Community Audio.

I have not done so, but it's been on my mind a lot. I wonder where we can host ROIOs and liberated bootlegs?

   8)  Whaaaaaaa........can you let us in on a bit more of your conversation?

This could be a great boost for all those "almost lost" recordings out there.  They need a home.

One of the Archive folks told me the same thing. Specifically, if it's not 007, and there won't be too many shows -> CA. If there will be several/many shows -> get a proper LMA set up.
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2015, 09:20:03 AM »
Every Wednesday i tape at a local band shell that gets crowds up to 1000. i used to burn cds last summer, but i just dont have the time anymore to do it. I was going to use soundcloud, but they want money after certain amount of minutes. So, i need to share this music with the local community for free and be able to listen/download easy (like LMA) does anyone know somthing like this that would work? i have tried a bunch of sites and everyone ive tried has had some weird quirk...    :djsmilie:

thanks!
Does a LMA collection need to be a band ?   What about a LMA collection called "PhilZone's Local Band Shell" or something like that to put this stuff ?    If the organizer gives permission and the bands agree, there you go... ?
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Re: Where To Share Shows that are taper friendly but not on LMA
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2015, 09:33:12 AM »
I believe I already answered that question. No.
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