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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #240 on: June 12, 2019, 06:52:55 PM »
Well this is great. I guess its time for more money.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #241 on: June 13, 2019, 04:07:59 AM »
If I'm going to run the IPA to an M10 , does a balanced output even matter if the cable is going to be less than a foot? I'm looking at going with the xlr-3 unbalanced option.

The M10 can't take a balanced signal anyway.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #242 on: June 13, 2019, 07:40:15 PM »
Its pretty simple, I had the power supply that Naiant sells I hacked off the connector end to use that with one of the premade 9v battery clips with leads. Here is a link to the battery, leads and image of the setup. I just need to shorten the cable now that I know it works.

I ended up stopping the test after 24 hours. Forgot to mention I was powering MK4V's during the test and feeding a recorder via the 1/8" side connector.

BATTERY https://bhpho.to/2L7T30h
9V connector https://bit.ly/2mtM5E5
IPA images https://imgur.com/a/tsRCqUd. The power light looks orange in this photo, I think it was the overhead light washing it out a bit, but it is red and during my testing the voltage was always above 9.5v

there are some other links in this thread for the 4mm x 1.7mm plug for the IPA. Just have to wire positive to the center lead (Naiant IPA page has this info so might want to confirm before wiring up)

My IPA powered with an A23 battery lasts about 4-5 hours for me powering my Milab VM-44 links. Found out the hard way on this, missed the last 35 min of the Who show in Pgh as a result. Live and learn. Just an FYI for others, i would imagine that this will be the case for most large mics. I don't really mind using a new one for every show but it would be a lot easier if i had something like the above setup (9v). not much more to get in and no waste of A23 batteries.

would these connectors work to power that 9v? this would help me avoid the soldering, which I can't do or having a cable made.

this is a right angle 4mmx1.7mm plug with 5.5mmx2.1mm female end that would mate with Male of the same with 9v clip. looks doable and very short for this purpose and i've seen i think a similar setup back in this thread but just want to be sure - don't want to try this if this will damage it. I emailed Jon but i know he is busy with other stuff....he may answer eventually....but it could be a while.

i assume attaching the 9v to the IPA like in the picture above will not cause any interference with it? should the IPA also be away from the recorder to avoid the same issue if i'm using o/s battery?

thanks. 
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« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 09:59:13 AM by ninjadave »
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Preamp/BB = Naiant IPA (v1) ~ CA-UGLY [+20db]
Recorders = Marantz PMD661 (Oade CM) ~ Sony PCM-A10
Playback = Sony MDR-7506 ~ Rokit 5's

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #243 on: June 17, 2019, 10:17:05 AM »
Dave, Those should work as long as the polarity and barrel size match what the IPA needs, I believe center is positive but the IPA page lists this info.

I was using the powerex 9v rechargeable. Since those are actually over the 9volts that the IPA needs. A regular alkaline 9v battery is only above 9volts for a short period of time while running the IPA
« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 10:20:05 AM by crunchy »

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #244 on: June 17, 2019, 05:10:23 PM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #245 on: June 17, 2019, 09:37:55 PM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591

in fact they have... its on this very page ^

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #246 on: June 18, 2019, 03:52:50 AM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591

in fact they have... its on this very page ^

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=176836.msg2286779#msg2286779

Actually I have rehoused it into a different case in the meantime. Turns out a Hammond 1593KBK holds the IPA plus a 9V battery quite nicely. I had to remove the A23 battery holder, though.

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #247 on: June 18, 2019, 05:42:49 PM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591

I’m curious, why? It’s damn tiny just making it bigger.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #248 on: June 18, 2019, 05:49:02 PM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591

I’m curious, why? It’s damn tiny just making it bigger.

Moving it from a metal to plastic housing. Most venues in town have a walk-through or wands now.
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #249 on: June 18, 2019, 08:33:26 PM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591

I’m curious, why? It’s damn tiny just making it bigger.

Moving it from a metal to plastic housing. Most venues in town have a walk-through or wands now.

i have not tried getting my AT853s, Ugly and A-10 in a venue yet but i'm guessing those will probably trip any walk thru and that would be the least amount of metal in any of my rigs. its a lot of copper wiring, i assume that is gonna trip it. wands - really don't matter how much metal you have really, it's where its at is most important and most are beating those easy - i mean, one less piece would help but its not gonna effect me or most esp those with bigger mics that need an IPA to power them. the bigger mics are tripping any walkthru so all your other shit could be plastic and its still going off.

I wish i had the rechargeable battery in my IPA, timing is indeed everything sometimes.

UPDATE on the Powering option -

Jon says the IPAv1 needs 12v to be most effective, the 9.6mah - 9v battery setup noted above might work but i wouldn't take any chances and it could reduce the effectiveness of the mics, it may power them but not to max SPL or dynamic range (this is my guess). he has a power cable he can make that will upconvert any 5v battery to 12v and you can use any battery pack that is 5v with a USB-a out of the battery pack, with the 4.0mm right angle output into the IPA. didn't get a price but i think that depends on length. he said based upon the draw, a 3000mah battery should last 200 hours. i would assume 1/2 of that so that ain't bad either and a 3000mah tube might be as small as we can find. just need to be careful with USB-a input not coming loose in the bag when stealthing.

UPDATE 2 - Price is quoted at $19 for this cable up to 1 meter. The upconversion of 5v to 12v part of this cable is in the USB-A connector. He said basically any 5v battery will work to power the IPA indefinitely basically, he's not sure if it would create any interference issues having the battery near the IPA but he said most likely not, would have to test that. I'm sure the USB-A plug is snug enough in the port to not have issues of it coming loose. that would be my only concern. 

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« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 07:27:21 PM by ninjadave »
Mics = Milab VM-44 Links [c] ~ AT853 [c,o] 
Preamp/BB = Naiant IPA (v1) ~ CA-UGLY [+20db]
Recorders = Marantz PMD661 (Oade CM) ~ Sony PCM-A10
Playback = Sony MDR-7506 ~ Rokit 5's

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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #250 on: June 21, 2019, 11:49:30 PM »
Has anyone ever rehoused an IPA? I'd love to get a baby nbox but I have the money for an IPA now.

I'm looking at throwing it in one of these: https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1591

I’m curious, why? It’s damn tiny just making it bigger.

Moving it from a metal to plastic housing. Most venues in town have a walk-through or wands now.

I have one, duh. 😬
« Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 06:54:17 PM by MakersMarc »
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #251 on: July 18, 2019, 04:51:39 PM »
Has anyone received a v2 yet?
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #252 on: July 19, 2019, 04:04:33 AM »
doubt it.

i asked the other day they were 4 week lead time. i dont think the final design was even done 4 weeks ago. prob soon though
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #253 on: August 22, 2019, 10:50:27 AM »
I don't u derstand any of this tech talk, if you have the four channel version how does it work as far as plugging in mics and does it output a mix of the channels or are they separate and you mix in post?
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Re: Naiant IPA
« Reply #254 on: October 05, 2019, 02:40:16 PM »
Has anyone got the new version yet? Any pics and reviews?
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