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Offline paranoidgcm

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Recommendations for recording gear?
« on: April 12, 2016, 12:20:41 PM »
Hello everyone, i need some help choosing a recording gear , my options are this:

-Sony PCM-M10
-SP-CMC-4U or SP-CMC-8 or CA-11 Cardiod Mics
-Battery box SP-SPSB-11 or Church Audio Preamp 9200

With your help i will able to buy my gear for taping concerts. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2016, 12:31:47 PM »
Due to the similarity of these products, you probably want to add more details regarding types of music, venues, loudness, etc. that you will be recording. 

Will you be doing stealth or open recording?

Also, do you already have the Sony PCM-M10, or are you open to other recorders?

More details will elicit more responses.

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2016, 03:19:22 PM »
Hello everyone, i need some help choosing a recording gear , my options are this:

-Sony PCM-M10
-SP-CMC-4U or SP-CMC-8 or CA-11 Cardiod Mics
-Battery box SP-SPSB-11 or Church Audio Preamp 9200

With your help i will able to buy my gear for taping concerts. Thanks in advance.
I'd go with SP-CMC-4 and the SP-SPSB-11

People will tell you for acoustic stuff you need the CA9200. Unless those are unamplified acoustic events, I wouldn't add another failure point to the chain with a preamp that you have to adjust independently of your deck inputs.

The CMC-4s are larger but have better dynamic range than the CA11 or CMC-8. The CMC-8 omnis are good; the cardiods are a little thin. There's also the CA-14, which is more the comparable mic to the CMC-8. Between those two it's kind of a matter of flavor; nulldogmas recently compared the two in a fairly objective fashion (same stand, etc.)
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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2016, 05:00:07 PM »
Due to the similarity of these products, you probably want to add more details regarding types of music, venues, loudness, etc. that you will be recording. 

Will you be doing stealth or open recording?

Also, do you already have the Sony PCM-M10, or are you open to other recorders?

More details will elicit more responses.

Cheers

You're right. I meant to stadiums, arenas mostly rock, indie, stealth recordings.

What other recorders recommend me?

Thank you


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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2016, 05:03:31 PM »
Hello everyone, i need some help choosing a recording gear , my options are this:

-Sony PCM-M10
-SP-CMC-4U or SP-CMC-8 or CA-11 Cardiod Mics
-Battery box SP-SPSB-11 or Church Audio Preamp 9200

With your help i will able to buy my gear for taping concerts. Thanks in advance.
I'd go with SP-CMC-4 and the SP-SPSB-11

People will tell you for acoustic stuff you need the CA9200. Unless those are unamplified acoustic events, I wouldn't add another failure point to the chain with a preamp that you have to adjust independently of your deck inputs.

The CMC-4s are larger but have better dynamic range than the CA11 or CMC-8. The CMC-8 omnis are good; the cardiods are a little thin. There's also the CA-14, which is more the comparable mic to the CMC-8. Between those two it's kind of a matter of flavor; nulldogmas recently compared the two in a fairly objective fashion (same stand, etc.)

I appreciate your comment. Thanks a lot

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2016, 06:37:21 PM »

You're right. I meant to stadiums, arenas mostly rock, indie, stealth recordings.


I mostly record rock/indie, though more at clubs than arenas. You really can't go wrong with an M10 for a two-channel recorder, and pretty much any battery box will do. Mics are going to be your biggest decision — as acidjack said, I've only used the CA-14 cards and AT853s (same mic as the CMC-4U), and they're awfully close; depending on the day of the week, the artist, and the venue, I'll tell you I prefer one over the other. CA-11s are supposedly thinner than the CA-14s, so if the CMC-8s are thin as well, I'd say the CMC-4Us are your safest bet.

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2016, 11:30:57 AM »
If you are in Europe the Roland R-05 may be considerably less expensive than the PCM-M10, and many people here recommend it as the equivalent. I have the PCM-M10 and love it.

For amplified music, all you need is a battery box, not a preamp.

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 03:13:00 AM »
Mics>BB/Preamp>Sony M10 is a pretty solid and very reliable method! Its been proven for years and years now! I would go with a Sony M10 and never look back ;) Like Earmonger said, depending on where you live, a Roland R5 might be a cheaper option, but if you can get your hands on a new M10, I say go for it! I had 2-3 of them over the years and I NEVER had a problem with any of them, EVER ;)

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 11:46:08 AM »
Something else you may want to take into account, re: SP vs. Church, is how soon you need your mics/bb.  No doubt Chris Church makes very good gear at a price point that is generally much less than comparable equipment elsewhere but, being a one-man shop, his build times can take up to several months.  The turnaround at Sound Professionals is on the order of a few weeks, if not less.

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Re: Recommendations for recording gear?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2016, 07:18:04 PM »
Thanks F.O.Bean and Fried Chicken Boy for your answers. ;D

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