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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2016, 12:51:54 PM »
So few open taping bands come to Tucson that it was either quit or pickup a  >:D setup. Even for open bands, it's gotten hard. The venue that used to let me out on the floor with even a 12 foot stand makes tapers now go under an overhang. The other nice venue disallows taping no matter the artists wishes. We used to regularly get jam bands, but turnout was so poor that they quit coming for the most part. Which is fine.
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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2016, 12:39:06 PM »
I just contacted the Camping World Stadium in Orlando (formerly the Citrus Bowl) for the upcoming Gun n Roses concert in July and they told me that they now have instituted a "clear-bag" rule.  This means that no one is allowed in the stadium  with the normal back pack, camera bag and even ladies purses the bag must be on the line of a Zip Top bag with ALL items fully exposed!

WOW - any suggestions how any recorders, mics, battery boxes can be undetected?

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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2016, 07:47:52 PM »
I just contacted the Camping World Stadium in Orlando (formerly the Citrus Bowl) for the upcoming Gun n Roses concert in July and they told me that they now have instituted a "clear-bag" rule.  This means that no one is allowed in the stadium  with the normal back pack, camera bag and even ladies purses the bag must be on the line of a Zip Top bag with ALL items fully exposed!

WOW - any suggestions how any recorders, mics, battery boxes can be undetected?

Better to take it private, but it can me done.

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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2016, 08:48:20 AM »
I just contacted the Camping World Stadium in Orlando (formerly the Citrus Bowl) for the upcoming Gun n Roses concert in July and they told me that they now have instituted a "clear-bag" rule.  This means that no one is allowed in the stadium  with the normal back pack, camera bag and even ladies purses the bag must be on the line of a Zip Top bag with ALL items fully exposed!

WOW - any suggestions how any recorders, mics, battery boxes can be undetected?

As long as your clothes aren't made out of see through plastic - I think you'll be OK!
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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 12:59:22 PM »
I had a pleasant surprise yesterday.  A festival with no search.  The rules are no gear, food or drinks since they want to sell that stuff inside.  No way to eat/drink unless I bring my own.  In past years it was as hard to get that in as gear.  Yesterday they forgot the searchers so they scanned tix and we walked down wondering about the search until we were on the field.  Forgot how nice no search was.

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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2016, 10:09:12 PM »
I just contacted the Camping World Stadium in Orlando (formerly the Citrus Bowl) for the upcoming Gun n Roses concert in July and they told me that they now have instituted a "clear-bag" rule.  This means that no one is allowed in the stadium  with the normal back pack, camera bag and even ladies purses the bag must be on the line of a Zip Top bag with ALL items fully exposed!

WOW - any suggestions how any recorders, mics, battery boxes can be undetected?

Keep in mind that for The Rolling Stones last June, they said they were going to have extra security, metal detectors and NO bags allowed.
Of course there was nothing at ALL. Not saying they won't have stuff for G n R, but it costs a lot of money for that extra security and some one has to pay.
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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2016, 02:40:26 AM »
They don't want weapons. They don't care about point-and-shoot cameras.  Does your recorder look innocuous like the Sony PCM-M10? Can you plug your mics into your cell phone so they look like earbuds? Be creative.

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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2016, 09:27:36 PM »
For larger arenas or stadiums, it isn't inconceivable to bring a big ass pair of binoculars. You could probably fit quite a bit of gear in something like this.


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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2016, 09:34:06 AM »
Just recorded my first show of the year (big 'no taping' artist), obviously the first I've taped post-Paris attack so I was expecting tighter security. - Walked into (major) venue wired up with mics and with my M10 and pre-amp in my back pocket. No checks.

I do use an RFID insulated bag (which cost quite a bit) which might help with detector etc...checks, I don't know.


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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2016, 10:52:03 AM »
The next incident that will lead to some fears about venue security.

Police: 50 feared dead after Florida nightclub terror attack


http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/index.html

and the other murder of the 'Voice' singer Christina Grimmie in Orlando was more relevant as the murderer did bring his gun into the show without any security check.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/11/entertainment/orlando-christina-grimmie-shot/index.html

It's unclear how the gunman got a gun into the venue or whether attendees were checked for weapons.
"We don't know if he was just a crazy fan that followed her on Twitter or on social media," Miglio said. "We really don't know ... it's undetermined at this point."
Security measures are in place at The Plaza Live, police say, but there are no metal detectors and people are not patted down.
"As far as security, The Plaza does have security guards who wear polo shirts. They are unarmed," Mina said. "They do check bags and purses as people enter."
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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2016, 09:39:19 AM »
IDEAL77 - congrats on your first gig of the year.  Did you have to go through any metal detectors or wands?  What is the model and make of the "bag" you used?  Because after yesterday's events in Orlando - ALL concert and sporting events will probably start using metal detectors in the next several weeks - will probably be a rider in the performers contract?

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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2016, 11:24:13 AM »
<< Because after yesterday's events in Orlando - ALL concert and sporting events will probably start using metal detectors in the next several weeks >>

I highly doubt that.  Detectors (both wands and walk throughs) and extra security personnel cost $$$.  It won't happen in the short term.
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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2016, 03:00:35 PM »

I highly doubt that.  Detectors (both wands and walk throughs) and extra security personnel cost $$$.  It won't happen in the short term.

I think more venues are going to use metal detectors, In my market 10 years ago MGM, House of Blues and Caesars Palace (ONLY FOR Celine Dion's show). Now almost all major venue except the Hard Rock in the strip area have either wands or walk through with Caesars using it for all shows. The Palms started using hand wands last month.

I talked to fried before this weekend and wonder in the increase in metal detector might be due to insurance policy discounts. That or with Vegas being such a tourist market the last thing they would want is a incident at a venue.   

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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2016, 03:21:26 PM »
As far as I know none of the AC casinos use them.  They certainly have the cash to make it happen; we'll see.  As far as other mid-sized venues go I believe any transition will be slow. 



I highly doubt that.  Detectors (both wands and walk throughs) and extra security personnel cost $$$.  It won't happen in the short term.

I think more venues are going to use metal detectors, In my market 10 years ago MGM, House of Blues and Caesars Palace (ONLY FOR Celine Dion's show). Now almost all major venue except the Hard Rock in the strip area have either wands or walk through with Caesars using it for all shows. The Palms started using hand wands last month.

I talked to fried before this weekend and wonder in the increase in metal detector might be due to insurance policy discounts. That or with Vegas being such a tourist market the last thing they would want is a incident at a venue.
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Re: Taping in Today's Environment!
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2016, 05:44:03 PM »
Metal detectors at all small venues just isn't going to happen... People say this every time there's an incident, and have since 9/11, and probably before that. It seems like a logical next step until you look at the $$ and other logistics, extra security personnel, longer lines, etc. Despite today's frequent public shootings, it's still statistically pretty unlikely for this to happen.
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