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Stand advice for steep lawn
« on: June 27, 2016, 12:00:04 PM »
Howdy TS brain trust.  Anyone have a lead on a stand with an adjustable leg?  Friend wants to Tape Dead and Co from the Lawn at Alpine Valley.  In recent years that have graded that lawn to an unbelievable steep angle. Friends heavy full body mics and T bar will likely tip a standard stand over.  Anyone advice?  Thanks!

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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2016, 12:32:17 PM »
Depending on the turf and how sturdy your stand legs are - I've had some success pushing the back leg into the turf a few inches to bring the stand closer to vertical.
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2016, 12:39:25 PM »
Depending on the turf and how sturdy your stand legs are - I've had some success pushing the back leg into the turf a few inches to bring the stand closer to vertical.
Ditto plus I used 3 tent stakes to secure the heavy stand plus heavy mic's at SPAC.
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016, 12:53:06 PM »
I tend to use tent stakes or sand bags on steep hills with success. Good luck.
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2016, 01:45:18 PM »
I was gonna say tent stakes, but sandbags will be more likely to be allowed into the venue. How about both if you can do it?

Or just get a round-based stand, and don't bring the base. Stab the stand right into the lawn??!?
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2016, 04:25:48 PM »
There are stands available which have one adjustable length leg such as the one linked above, intended for exactly this application.

Other options are to point two of the legs down the grade and jam the single up-grade one into the ground as 'Rewind and 'Suitcase mentioned.. or alternately orient the stand the otherway, with two legs facing up-grade, then place something substantial under the down-grade facing third leg which is high enough to raise it sufficiently so that the stand is level.  That avoids needing to poke into the ground, but requires a steady enough down-grade "shim" of the appropriate height.
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2016, 08:27:11 PM »
I was gonna say tent stakes, but sandbags will be more likely to be allowed into the venue. How about both if you can do it?

Or just get a round-based stand, and don't bring the base. Stab the stand right into the lawn??!?
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2016, 01:33:47 PM »
Thanks for your input folks, very helpful. Tim, nice looking stand but my wife would give me a knuckle sandwich if I got that one for a one gig use  :D  I think we're going with sand bags and stakes.   Getting Pavilion seats would be easier but friend wants to rock it the way we did as kids years ago.  Looking forward to it!

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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2016, 01:44:21 PM »
Thanks for your input folks, very helpful. Tim, nice looking stand but my wife would give me a knuckle sandwich if I got that one for a one gig use  :D  I think we're going with sand bags and stakes.   Getting Pavilion seats would be easier but friend wants to rock it the way we did as kids years ago.  Looking forward to it!

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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2016, 03:45:30 PM »
Mountain jam veteran here, start digging with a stake and try to get a nice hole on the uphill side. We thought about sandbags this year, definitely a good option if you don't mind lugging it up the hill.

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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2016, 04:26:53 PM »
IMHO stands are more stable with one leg forward on an incline. It would be easy and inexpensive enough to rig your own leveling leg. A couple of hose clamps and a length of pipe or crutch leg etc. added to the forward leg. Tent stakes are always a good idea but some venues have hard pan clay which can make driving them though even with a mallet. There are corkscrew type stakes probably best when used with bungee cords. Never had a problem getting tent stakes in though one time security had never seen anyone do that before questioned them but they were fine once explaining the safety use in securing the stand. Suitable sandbags lugged into a venue might not be so fun.
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2016, 04:47:04 PM »
Hose clamp an extension to the front leg-- I love that solution DigiGal, thanks!
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2016, 05:20:33 PM »
^ Be sure to use two hose-clamps, push them as far apart as possible along the leg and clamp them tight.  It's going to want to twist somewhat oddly and angle upwards a bit when weight is placed on that leg.  For fashioning your own adjustable "lazy leg", it may work best to find a section of aluminum or steel tubing/pipe which fits loosely over the existing leg, and use a single hose clamp around the leg itself as an adjustable stop for the pipe.  The pipe stays more aligned with the leg since it's slipped over it, and just pushes against the clamp. Loosen and move the clamp up or down the leg to adjust the extension length of the pipe section.  Shouldn't need to remove the hose-clamp, just leave it clamped on the leg when the extension isn't needed.

But, I've never had a problem simply finding something to shove under the down-grade leg (usually in combination with jamming the two back legs into the ground a bit), and since that lifts the leg perpendicular to the slope, it needn't be anywhere near as tall as the length an extension will need be long in order to "extend the line of the leg" until it contacts the slope further down-grade at increasingly acute angles as the grade increases.  Just need to make sure whatever you shove under there is stiff and stable enough and won't crush down too much.
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Re: Stand advice for steep lawn
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2016, 12:04:31 AM »
My suggestion above was quick and dirty Ghetto to show it can be that simple.

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