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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2016, 11:08:50 AM »
Does the F4 have a HOLD button/function?

If you mean a LOCK function, no, not as far as I have been able to determine.

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #77 on: December 27, 2016, 05:34:07 AM »
Does the F4 have a HOLD button/function? This is a real deal-breaker for me. I'm often in situations where I have to "set it and forget it" and have to abandon the bag afterwards and guard the stand while the w00ks kick the gear tucked under the SBD...




You just need a cheap ole Tascam 70D if you need to "set it and forget it" ;) The HOLD function locks EVERYTHING on the deck, including the gain knobs! I LOVE that about it actually! I get my levels set and put HOLD ON, and don't touch a thing until the set is over and I hit STOP 8) Well worth the $200/new with an "approved" sd card. I buy SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 & 64gb SD Cards from Amazon straight from SanDisk FWIW!

That said, I do like the F4/F8. And those extra 2 channels on 5/6 with the 1/8" Stereo input is badass IMO! It's also MORE THAN double the price of a 70D, same price as the 701D! So there are LOTS of options out there for UNDER $1k that are HQ and sound great! I also just bought a 128gb SanDisk Extreme Pro SD Card for only $64 on Amazon :) Can't beat the price and quality on those either IMO!
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #78 on: December 27, 2016, 09:01:22 AM »
I also just bought a 128gb SanDisk Extreme Pro SD Card for only $64 on Amazon :) Can't beat the price and quality on those either IMO!

Is crazy that back when I was buying stacks of SanDisk Extreme Pro cards for my Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera that I paid over 50% more for cards of only *half* the capacity!!

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2017, 08:16:50 AM »
The mixing control surface is now announced for $350:

http://www.locationsound.com/zoom-f-control-mixing-control-surface-for-zoom-f-series-3840

did anyone buy one of these?

It looks great, for the price, but I'm not sure I'd want to run that under a seat at MSG...
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2017, 10:02:58 AM »

It looks great, for the price, but I'm not sure I'd want to run that under a seat at MSG...

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2017, 10:22:54 AM »

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2017, 11:07:14 AM »

It looks great, for the price, but I'm not sure I'd want to run that under a seat at MSG...

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #84 on: January 18, 2017, 03:23:47 PM »
Hi all,
in the 1/8 input, is it possible to directly connect a 3.5mm lav mic?
1) those battery powered, should work I think. But I don't know if they are mono with a stereo connector, I think a special adapter cable is needed or even those with a mono connector. With proper cable should it get 2 of them.
2) those not battery powered like for example those smartphone lavs that get "power line" (I think between 1V-9V) (I know they are TRRS, but with an adapter cable...)?
There isn't phantom power, but how many volts go out from  F4's 1/8 input? 5V?
3) input levels are like XLR inputs? Are correct for these mics or are like line levels?

Practical example mics:
1) Aputure a.lav or ATR 3350
2) Rode smartlav+

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2017, 05:05:04 PM »
The 1/8" jack is an output not an input
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2017, 02:53:44 AM »
I saw in a 3.5mm connector there is: RTN (INPUT 5/6).
I'm not referring to the SUB OUT 3.5mm.

But anyway, I suppose I assumed it wrong: it should be a line signal, so it's not possible...

Ok, let's say:
mics like 1) can be solved with an XLR adapter in the normal mic inputs without Phantom? They are battery powered, so they should work.

mics like 2) could be connected to the Zoom capsule with an XLR adapter?
EDIT:
I read that it hasn't phantom power (24-48V), so how much Volts output that capsule, is it with "plug-in power" (3-9V) to power electret mics without battery?

Otherwise, is there some way to connect these lavs not powered, not phantom?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 06:32:41 AM by frank10 »

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #87 on: January 23, 2017, 02:17:57 PM »
5/6 is a line-in jack. That means you, usually, need a pre-amp to use it with a mic. Its intended use is to take a line level signal from a camcorder or a front of house mixer and send it to the headphone amp for monitoring. HOWEVER, it can be sent to the recorder 5/6 tracks instead. The 5/6 tracks can also record from the Zoom Plug-in Mic's.
 

I saw in a 3.5mm connector there is: RTN (INPUT 5/6).
I'm not referring to the SUB OUT 3.5mm.

But anyway, I suppose I assumed it wrong: it should be a line signal, so it's not possible...

Ok, let's say:
mics like 1) can be solved with an XLR adapter in the normal mic inputs without Phantom? They are battery powered, so they should work.

mics like 2) could be connected to the Zoom capsule with an XLR adapter?
EDIT:
I read that it hasn't phantom power (24-48V), so how much Volts output that capsule, is it with "plug-in power" (3-9V) to power electret mics without battery?

Otherwise, is there some way to connect these lavs not powered, not phantom?

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #88 on: January 23, 2017, 02:52:14 PM »
Thank you. At pag.83 of the manual it says: "changing the plugin power setting (Plugin Power)" to use when there is a mic connected to the mic capsule (MIC/LINE) input jack.
What does it mean capsule input jack?
Capsule, does it mean the external 5/6 channels connected in the rear MIC IN connector EXH-6? But they have a XLR connector besides the jack. Anyway if it refers to them, with that accessory it should be possible to connect some plug-in power mics.

I hope it can manage both phantom power and plug-in power.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2017, 02:58:39 PM by frank10 »

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2017, 10:50:17 AM »
I don't know for how long, but the F4 is on sale for $599 at Musicians Friend right now.... plus free ground shipping....

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/zoom-f4-multitrack-field-recorder

 

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