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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2018, 02:08:50 PM »
If you want to do your mid/side decoding in post, don't use the mid/side function in the F8.  Just record the two tracks like any two-channel stereo (making note, of course, of which track is the side).
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2018, 02:44:48 PM »
If you want to do your mid/side decoding in post, don't use the mid/side function in the F8.  Just record the two tracks like any two-channel stereo (making note, of course, of which track is the side).

a simple solution, thanks for the quick help! Btw, I love the result of M/S Stereo for a Room Micro. Beside other spot mics for the instruments it gives a nice addition for the whole Mix.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2018, 10:14:38 AM »
Just record the two tracks like any two-channel stereo (making note, of course, of which track is the side).

The conventional wisdom is to always record the MID to track 1/LEFT and the Side to track 2/RIGHT.

Most MS decoder plugins work with this format.

Personally I never use MS decoding while recording - I always want to be able to process at home later when I can hear what I'm doing.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #123 on: July 16, 2018, 10:40:33 AM »
The Mid/Side decoder in the recorder can be inserted either at the input stage (in which case you are recording Left/Right signals instead of Mid/Side, and will be monitoring audio from those channels as Left/Right) or inserted at the channel output to the mix bus (in which case you are recording Mid and Side signals but monitoring/outputting Left/Right signals).

If you've already recorded the matrixed Left/Right, you can convert it back to Mid/Side again.  You can do so either via direct playback from the machine using the Mid/Side decoder in the machine on the playback side (M/S > M/S decoder > L/R), or in your DAW.

That way you can "re-tweak" the Mid/Side ratio slightly if necessary when converting back to L/R again via another pass through a M/S decoder.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #124 on: July 31, 2018, 04:53:19 PM »
Invoked the new firmware last night (v5.0), the process was glitch-free and all settings were left untouched. I'll be testing the "advanced" limiters Thursday. I was hoping to get the F8n's vertical display but I'm not going to complain, Zoom practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:

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  • Maximum fader level increased from +12dB to +24dB
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #125 on: July 31, 2018, 08:41:00 PM »
I'm not going to complain, Zoom [/font]practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:

Yeah I'm left wondering what the hell did I pay extra for to get the F8n.....  ah well, I guess I'll wait and see?

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #126 on: August 01, 2018, 10:23:51 AM »
Invoked the new firmware last night (v5.0), the process was glitch-free and all settings were left untouched. I'll be testing the "advanced" limiters Thursday. I was hoping to get the F8n's vertical display but I'm not going to complain, Zoom practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:
If by "vertical display" you mean the new look "Fader Mode" for the home screen its there - option is just a bit buried!
Or perhaps you meant something else.
I can't remember the last time I was treated so well by a company after buying a tech product. v5.0 is an embarrassment of riches. They've got me for life now!
One other thing that's changed that I haven't seen mentioned - and its a biggy for me - shortcuts that previously relied on pressing "STOP" and [Key] (eg clear overs) now don't need the "STOP" whilst recording! So happy about that!

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2018, 07:00:37 AM »
Invoked the new firmware last night (v5.0), the process was glitch-free and all settings were left untouched. I'll be testing the "advanced" limiters Thursday. I was hoping to get the F8n's vertical display but I'm not going to complain, Zoom [font=arial

You can have the vertical display as well

 Menu >System >Track Knob óption> Fader

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #128 on: August 03, 2018, 02:42:53 PM »
Invoked the new firmware last night (v5.0), the process was glitch-free and all settings were left untouched. I'll be testing the "advanced" limiters Thursday. I was hoping to get the F8n's vertical display but I'm not going to complain, Zoom practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:
If by "vertical display" you mean the new look "Fader Mode" for the home screen its there - option is just a bit buried!
Or perhaps you meant something else.
I can't remember the last time I was treated so well by a company after buying a tech product. v5.0 is an embarrassment of riches. They've got me for life now!
One other thing that's changed that I haven't seen mentioned - and its a biggy for me - shortcuts that previously relied on pressing "STOP" and [Key] (eg clear overs) now don't need the "STOP" whilst recording! So happy about that!

BEST. NEWS. EVER.

it always made me super super nervous to press "stop" during a recording.

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #129 on: August 03, 2018, 03:15:23 PM »
Man I need to get on this. Gotta love that Zoom is still cranking out this many new features for a deck that is 4 years old, especially with a new model out....love it!
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #130 on: August 03, 2018, 03:18:39 PM »
Man I need to get on this. Gotta love that Zoom is still cranking out this many new features for a deck that is 4 years old, especially with a new model out....love it!

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #131 on: August 03, 2018, 03:54:28 PM »
I'm not going to complain, Zoom [/font]practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:

Yeah I'm left wondering what the hell did I pay extra for to get the F8n.....  ah well, I guess I'll wait and see?

I'm just going off memory, but doesn't the F8n have actual physical improvements to the headphone amp?  I know the headphone amp is a common complaint about the F8.  I'm guessing the new F8 firmware won't be as good an improvement as having an actual physical improvement like the F8n has...?
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #132 on: August 03, 2018, 04:11:17 PM »
I'm not going to complain, Zoom [/font]practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:

Yeah I'm left wondering what the hell did I pay extra for to get the F8n.....  ah well, I guess I'll wait and see?

I'm just going off memory, but doesn't the F8n have actual physical improvements to the headphone amp?  I know the headphone amp is a common complaint about the F8.  I'm guessing the new F8 firmware won't be as good an improvement as having an actual physical improvement like the F8n has...?

From the F8 FB group:

Update 8/1/18* Contacted Zoom and they said there is no difference between the headphone outputs after v.5.0.


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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #133 on: August 03, 2018, 04:46:17 PM »
Well I guess if nothing else it's good to see a company not "holding back" capabilities just to try to push people into buying a newer product  :shrug:
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #134 on: August 04, 2018, 11:09:02 AM »
I'm not going to complain, Zoom [/font]practically handed us an F8n with this firmware update:

Yeah I'm left wondering what the hell did I pay extra for to get the F8n.....  ah well, I guess I'll wait and see?

I'm just going off memory, but doesn't the F8n have actual physical improvements to the headphone amp?  I know the headphone amp is a common complaint about the F8.  I'm guessing the new F8 firmware won't be as good an improvement as having an actual physical improvement like the F8n has...?

From the F8 FB group:

Update 8/1/18* Contacted Zoom and they said there is no difference between the headphone outputs after v.5.0.
Just astonishing. I know early F8n owners who frantically traded up might feel aggrieved, but the idea of eaking out the very best from hardware already released is a very welcome move

 

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