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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2017, 07:01:18 PM »
So, are people just planning on carrying around attenuators with the minimum 28dB gain setting? Or did I read the specs too quickly?

i think everyone is waiting on Doug to get one and tear it apart and see if he can rectify it correctly without attenuators in the signal path

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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2017, 09:24:40 PM »
So, are people just planning on carrying around attenuators with the minimum 28dB gain setting? Or did I read the specs too quickly?
where do you see "minimum"?
I read it as that's how much gain you can get out of it on "low"


Maybe I missed it, but did anyone test if you can change setting WHILE recording?
For example, if I am recording and the gain is set to low/high, can you continue to record while going into the menu and changing it?
Same applies to camera out.
On the d60 you can go into the menu and change while recording and it has the wheel for camera out, which I like
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #137 on: December 07, 2017, 09:50:43 PM »
So, are people just planning on carrying around attenuators with the minimum 28dB gain setting? Or did I read the specs too quickly?
where do you see "minimum"?
I read it as that's how much gain you can get out of it on "low"


Maybe I missed it, but did anyone test if you can change setting WHILE recording?
For example, if I am recording and the gain is set to low/high, can you continue to record while going into the menu and changing it?
Same applies to camera out.
On the d60 you can go into the menu and change while recording and it has the wheel for camera out, which I like

If it is setup anything like the tascam dr70d then the +28db is the lowest gain starting point in the "low" setting and can be ramped up from there.  so yes, I'm assuming attenuators would be needed for rock shows.
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #138 on: December 07, 2017, 10:02:36 PM »
So, are people just planning on carrying around attenuators with the minimum 28dB gain setting? Or did I read the specs too quickly?
where do you see "minimum"?
I read it as that's how much gain you can get out of it on "low"


Maybe I missed it, but did anyone test if you can change setting WHILE recording?
For example, if I am recording and the gain is set to low/high, can you continue to record while going into the menu and changing it?
Same applies to camera out.
On the d60 you can go into the menu and change while recording and it has the wheel for camera out, which I like

If it is setup anything like the tascam dr70d then the +28db is the lowest gain starting point in the "low" setting and can be ramped up from there.  so yes, I'm assuming attenuators would be needed for rock shows.
hmm the 60 is the highest at each
Do you need attenuation with the 70?? The spec for low on the 70 say 21db, that seems high too
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #139 on: December 07, 2017, 10:10:54 PM »
So, are people just planning on carrying around attenuators with the minimum 28dB gain setting? Or did I read the specs too quickly?
where do you see "minimum"?
I read it as that's how much gain you can get out of it on "low"


Maybe I missed it, but did anyone test if you can change setting WHILE recording?
For example, if I am recording and the gain is set to low/high, can you continue to record while going into the menu and changing it?
Same applies to camera out.
On the d60 you can go into the menu and change while recording and it has the wheel for camera out, which I like

If it is setup anything like the tascam dr70d then the +28db is the lowest gain starting point in the "low" setting and can be ramped up from there.  so yes, I'm assuming attenuators would be needed for rock shows.
hmm the 60 is the highest at each
Do you need attenuation with the 70?? The spec for low on the 70 say 21db, that seems high too

The low setting on the dr70d is +11dB and ramps up from there.
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #140 on: December 07, 2017, 10:18:02 PM »
So, are people just planning on carrying around attenuators with the minimum 28dB gain setting? Or did I read the specs too quickly?
where do you see "minimum"?
I read it as that's how much gain you can get out of it on "low"


Maybe I missed it, but did anyone test if you can change setting WHILE recording?
For example, if I am recording and the gain is set to low/high, can you continue to record while going into the menu and changing it?
Same applies to camera out.
On the d60 you can go into the menu and change while recording and it has the wheel for camera out, which I like

If it is setup anything like the tascam dr70d then the +28db is the lowest gain starting point in the "low" setting and can be ramped up from there.  so yes, I'm assuming attenuators would be needed for rock shows.
hmm the 60 is the highest at each
Do you need attenuation with the 70?? The spec for low on the 70 say 21db, that seems high too

The low setting on the dr70d is +11dB and ramps up from there.
ok, the 60 "low" goes up to +11db
Bottom line, I guess we need one in hand to see if the number listed is min or max at each level
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #141 on: December 07, 2017, 11:25:41 PM »
Ah crap I believe I am mistaken. Not sure what I was thinking after looking at dr70d faq.

The thing holding me back is the line input max on the marantz unit and everyone keeps saying the screen is so small.
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2017, 07:35:27 AM »
Doug told me based on the specs that the stock line-in max level is too low and will overload with hot SBD feeds. Maybe if you take RCA outs you'll be ok, but +4 balanced line outs are what I usually go for from SBDs. Still waiting for his assessment on upgrade potential and I'll pass along any updates he sends me.
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2017, 09:04:59 AM »
Doug told me based on the specs that the stock line-in max level is too low and will overload with hot SBD feeds. Maybe if you take RCA outs you'll be ok, but +4 balanced line outs are what I usually go for from SBDs. Still waiting for his assessment on upgrade potential and I'll pass along any updates he sends me.
this seems to be an issue over and over with Marantz, no?
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2017, 09:47:17 AM »
Doug told me based on the specs that the stock line-in max level is too low and will overload with hot SBD feeds. Maybe if you take RCA outs you'll be ok, but +4 balanced line outs are what I usually go for from SBDs. Still waiting for his assessment on upgrade potential and I'll pass along any updates he sends me.

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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #145 on: December 08, 2017, 09:54:22 AM »
Just curious, if you run line in from external pres does that bypass the marantz unit pres? Someone told me that is what they thought and I thought I should ask here to clarify.

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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #146 on: December 08, 2017, 02:21:09 PM »
I'm thinking line in is not a separate circuit, just different gain structure. I'm deducing this because of the lack of a physical switch like the 661.
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #147 on: December 08, 2017, 03:41:07 PM »
I'll be taping a solo acoustic (no PA) artist tonight with mics directly in front of him. I'm may run the first set at low gain and adjust as necessary for the second set. Should be a  good test for how quiet the 706 is w/o an external pre.

I'll probably run a pair of split CA-14 omnis to the DR-22WL for a backup.
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #148 on: December 08, 2017, 07:40:18 PM »
I'll be taping a solo acoustic (no PA) artist tonight with mics directly in front of him. I'm may run the first set at low gain and adjust as necessary for the second set. Should be a  good test for how quiet the 706 is w/o an external pre.

I'll probably run a pair of split CA-14 omnis to the DR-22WL for a backup.

I'm heading out in few hours to tape Dustbowl Revival. Will run the first set with MK41 PFA straight in to the 706 then the second set with the Aerco line in. If they only play one set then I'm not sure what I'll do.

EDIT - They played one set and I ran the mk41s PFA into 1/2 Low gain, Mic in. The knob was a bout 12 oclock and I was peaking at -18 dB. Small club with a good PA that the FOH mixes from a tablet in the crowd and doesn't run things way loud. First listen - sounds great. I'll post some samples to my Soundcloud today. The band was great!
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Re: Marantz PMD-706 Six Channel Recorder?
« Reply #149 on: December 09, 2017, 01:12:57 PM »

Here's a couple of tracks from last night's show. MK41PFA mic in low gain clamped at about 7 feet high around 20 feet from the stage. Only added gain to the files and balanced channels to fix 1 dB difference.

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