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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2017, 11:28:03 PM »
This came from another forum:

http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/29601-new-sd-gear/&page=3

"In advanced mode, the MixPre-3 and -6 will operate like a mixer that most readers here are used to: The input's knob will be the fader and control the post-trim level to the LR mix. The input's trim (Accessible via the Input Settings screen when the input's knob is pressed) will control the level into the ISO track and then into the fader."

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jon_tatooles & Nic from Sound Devices are both on the jwsoundgroup forum listed above.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2017, 12:36:39 AM »
And further on in the JWS thread:


"Folks - you can use channel knobs to adjust your ISO levels. To do this, you would select Custom mode and set Record to Advanced and leave Channel set to Basic. When Channel is set to Basic, ISO levels are post channel knob and when Record is set to Advanced, ISOs can be armed."

Looks quite nice if you want 6 tracks and 4 pres.  I expect the sound quality and construction will be up to the usual SD standard.  Nice that there is some competition among manufacturers in this little recording niche.  Zoom and SD have upped the ante.  Who's next?
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2017, 05:51:39 AM »
What's the best way to input into a Canon 5D MarkIV to record on the camera's card with audio?
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2017, 07:59:46 AM »

Just to confirm folks, MixPre-3 and 6 do have both trim gains for ISO levels and fader gains for stereo mixing.
Sorry about delay in response - just saw the thread on this forum.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2017, 09:14:07 AM »
What's the best way to input into a Canon 5D MarkIV to record on the camera's card with audio?
i don't think you can unless you used the headphones out
That's the huge plus of the ta scam 60d, it has a dedicated camera out that you can adjust too
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2017, 09:23:34 AM »
What's the best way to input into a Canon 5D MarkIV to record on the camera's card with audio?
i don't think you can unless you used the headphones out
That's the huge plus of the ta scam 60d, it has a dedicated camera out that you can adjust too

There is a dedicated stereo out on the left side.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2017, 09:48:00 AM »
And further on in the JWS thread:


"Folks - you can use channel knobs to adjust your ISO levels. To do this, you would select Custom mode and set Record to Advanced and leave Channel set to Basic. When Channel is set to Basic, ISO levels are post channel knob and when Record is set to Advanced, ISOs can be armed."

Looks quite nice if you want 6 tracks and 4 pres.  I expect the sound quality and construction will be up to the usual SD standard.  Nice that there is some competition among manufacturers in this little recording niche.  Zoom and SD have upped the ante.  Who's next?

SD support also answered the question about gain for th ISO tracks and confirmed you can set gain.


"To access the gain, it will require you to be in either Advance Mode or Custom Mode (Custom with Advance Channel on) and you'll be able to access the gain by itself. To access the gain, pressing the channel knob down will put the user in the Input Channel Settings (much like how toggling the 6-Series PFL toggle). There, you'll be able to adjust the gain and the knob will become the fader."

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2017, 12:21:29 PM »

Just to confirm folks, MixPre-3 and 6 do have both trim gains for ISO levels and fader gains for stereo mixing.
Sorry about delay in response - just saw the thread on this forum.

Paul

Paul,

Thanks for dropping in and confirming this.  I greatly appreciate that you and SD have taken the time to help us out.

Now that you are here, stay a while! :coolguy:

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2017, 12:53:41 PM »
Paul,

Thanks for dropping in and confirming this.  I greatly appreciate that you and SD have taken the time to help us out.

Now that you are here, stay a while! :coolguy:

Henri

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2017, 03:01:20 PM »
SD is the best.  I just about loved my 702 to death, still my favorite recorder of all time.  If I were still taping I would be all over the MixPre-6...

Is there any point keeping the 702 in view of this new release? ???

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2017, 04:24:23 PM »
Is there any point keeping the 702 in view of this new release? ???

Can't beat those blinding LED level lights on the 7-series.  8)

Aside from features and audio quality, one thing I am particularly curious (for someone who definitely will not be getting one) about is what the battery life is with AA batteries and what type of lithium batteries it can use.  It doesn't look like it can use the Sony camcorder lithium batteries like the 7-series, which gave it a lot of operating time. 

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2017, 04:28:58 PM »
It can use the sony batteries!!  There is an optional sled to hold 2 of the sony batteries and they can be hot swapped.  Here is a link

https://www.gothamsound.com/product/mixpre-l-series-battery-sled

Is there any point keeping the 702 in view of this new release? ???

Can't beat those blinding LED level lights on the 7-series.  8)

Aside from features and audio quality, one thing I am particularly curious (for someone who definitely will not be getting one) about is what the battery life is with AA batteries and what type of lithium batteries it can use.  It doesn't look like it can use the Sony camcorder lithium batteries like the 7-series, which gave it a lot of operating time.
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2017, 04:31:58 PM »
It can use the sony batteries!!  There is an optional sled to hold 2 of the sony batteries and they can be hot swapped.

That's crazy!!!  Those L batteries were pretty big, and two at the same time would be incredible.  And hot swappable too... just, wow.  And AA for emergencies.  Incredible. 

Too bad the inputs are on opposite sides but that couldn't be helped I guess with that form factor.

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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2017, 04:36:14 PM »
There is also an optional sled that can hold 8 AA batteries vs. the 4 AA that comes with it.   
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Re: Sound Devices New MixPre Series
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2017, 09:10:19 PM »
would really like all of this but with 8 xlr/trs inputs. 

tempted for the mixpre6 but don't want to jump the gun if they have an 8 coming...
Mics:
DPA 4028 (wide cards)
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Earthworks TC25 (omnis) 
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bm2p+ Edirol UA-5
Sound Professionals 2 wire battbox w/ rolloff

Recorders:
Oade CM Edirol R-44
Edirol R-09

 

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