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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #180 on: March 19, 2018, 01:27:15 PM »
Ok, I'm blind, so I can't see pictures of the various mounting options in use. I can only read the text descriptions.
I posted about the SCM0013-B four-way clip. Someone then posted about the D:screte holder, SCM0017.

I like to attach the mics to my shoulders, with cables running down the inside back of my sweater, jacket, etc.

Which of those two accessories would you guys recommend I use for that application?

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #181 on: March 19, 2018, 03:45:45 PM »
Okay, I just checked out on-line photos of both SCM0013-B and SCM0017.

Both are alligator type clips with spring-loaded jaws which clamp onto clothing or whatever, appropriate for mounting to the edge of something like a collar or hat-brim, but probably not appropriate for mounting under clothing.

SCM0013-B places the mic parallel to, and basically flat up against, the surface to which the clamp is attached.  If attached to a jacket lavalier the mic faces directly upwards, downwards, or sideways when snapped into various slots in a piece attached to the upper jaw.

SCM0017 is a similar clamp, but angles the mic out away from the surface to which the clamp is attached, at what appears to be a 45 degree angle, intended to avoid the mic grid rubbing up against the fabric.  I suspect the grid would protrude about a half inch or so from the fabric surface to which the clamp is attached.  It looks like it is intended only for that microphone mounting position, but like the 13-B version it also has a feature on the end of the bottom clamp jaw into which the cable can be snapped to form a strain-relief loop.  One could probably use that alone for a parallel to the surface mic clamping arrangement without securing a full cable loop at the clamp.  That cable snap feature runs across the end of the lower jaw and is basically the same as the multiple "cable snap" slots on the top jaw of the 13-B.

Hope that helps.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #182 on: March 19, 2018, 03:54:14 PM »
Additional info to the post above-  That 45 degree mic angle on the SCM0017 points toward the open end of the clamp jaw and away from the clamped surface.  So if you were to clamp it to a piece of paper and lay the paper down on a desk, the mic would be pointing across the page and upward at a 45 degree angle.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #183 on: March 19, 2018, 09:00:16 PM »
Ok, I'm blind, so I can't see pictures of the various mounting options in use. I can only read the text descriptions.
I posted about the SCM0013-B four-way clip. Someone then posted about the D:screte holder, SCM0017.

I like to attach the mics to my shoulders, with cables running down the inside back of my sweater, jacket, etc.

Which of those two accessories would you guys recommend I use for that application?

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #184 on: March 19, 2018, 09:09:36 PM »
Thanks for the info, guys! Much appreciated.

Yeah... tape is the cheapest option as well... decisions decisions...

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #185 on: March 26, 2018, 09:22:21 AM »
Finally got out last night to use this as a backup to the main rig and found a couple of nasty surprises:

1/ noticed when I connect the microdot firmly, it shorts out. I've read about "over tightening" being an issue with the connectors in the past; not sure if it's with the mic cable or the d:vice itself so I need to do a little more work with this.  As long as it's snug (and not tight), I've got a perfect second connection.  Even at snug, I don't see how it would disconnect.

2/ while recording, I made the mistake of adjusting levels in the Shure software and not the DPA d:vice software. I noticed audible "dropouts" albeit they're pretty brief.  I'm guessing I really should've used the d:vice panel for this instead.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #186 on: March 26, 2018, 01:51:33 PM »
I am a little confused about when/if it's necessary to use the D:vice app at all.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #187 on: March 26, 2018, 02:01:22 PM »
I am a little confused about when/if it's necessary to use the D:vice app at all.

For recording into a phone in place of a dedicated audio recorder.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #188 on: March 26, 2018, 02:17:36 PM »
I am a little confused about when/if it's necessary to use the D:vice app at all.

For recording into a phone in place of a dedicated audio recorder.
The most compact high-quality rig available.

Hah, I ned to change my question. I have a D:Vice and used it to record a show using MetaRecorder, but I was able to set the levels in MetaRecorder. My question was meant to be why do I need to use the D:vice app as part of the process?
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #189 on: March 26, 2018, 02:37:23 PM »
Ah, I missed the app part.  I'll leave that to those with hands on experience who are actually using it.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #190 on: March 26, 2018, 02:39:15 PM »
I am a little confused about when/if it's necessary to use the D:vice app at all.

As I posted earlier today, using the suggested Shure MOTIV app, I noticed little audio drops where the levels were adjusted.  That said, that's why I think people were suggesting doing the level adjustment in the actual d:vice app.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #191 on: March 30, 2018, 08:35:18 PM »
Anyone updated to iOS 11.3 yet? Any issues?

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #192 on: March 30, 2018, 09:02:47 PM »
I leave my 6s on OS 10 so can't help there.

Has anyone experimented with shorter lightning cables than the one included with the d:vice?
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #193 on: March 30, 2018, 10:43:31 PM »
Has anybody tried this new four-way clip from DPA for the 4060/61's? Sounds like just the thing for tapers!

SCM0013-B
4-Way Clip for d:screetâ„¢ Miniature Microphones:
https://www.dpamicrophones.com/accessories/4-way-clip-for-dscreet

I picked up two of these to run AB. They replace the older clips whose springs have given out. They're shorter than the ones that shipped with my SMK packages (I don't know the model number) and they seems to clamp tighter. So far, so good. At 21.00 USD each, I hope they last longer than the other ones. But really, the 4060 are such lovely mikes, I can forgive DPA for such expensive accessories.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #194 on: March 31, 2018, 04:07:56 PM »
Surprised with no comments about my findings above, but I'll add to what I initially thought.

I compared my recording in a smallish room - maybe 45' wide x 60' deep where I was sitting in the corner closest to the soundboard and my buddy was shooting video and running my old Schoeps MK41's at the "opposite corner." When I listened back to the recordings, I actually liked the 4060's in the room MUCH better than the MK41's, however, I did notice that the levels on the Shure software don't necessarily reflect what is being recorded: despite showing my peaks hitting around -3dB (which is "red" on the app), the recording is clipped left, right, and centre which means the mics do run hotter than the app is describing.  Perhaps that's the noticeable audio hits I was talking about in the fact that I was brickwalling.  Disappointing that this was on the first attempt but I'm very happy with the "learning curve."  It was the first show I actually recorded in just over three years.
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