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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #120 on: May 31, 2017, 05:21:27 PM »
I only got my MixPre-D some 9 months ago but now i'm wondering why i should still hold onto it? Much dearer along than the MixPre 3. In fact larger too.

Just taking a guess here as I don't have one of these recorders and haven't read through the manual, but couldn't you still use your MixPre-D as a mic preamp and run it into the "Aux/Mic In" input on the side to record a few more microphone channels?  Honest question as I don't know if that input is stereo or how it can be utilized on a separate track.  Apologies if I'm mistaken. 

This is also why an AES (or even SPDIF) input would've been a welcome addition on the MixPre-3/6 series.  Could take advantage of the extra channels that don't have XLR inputs.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #121 on: May 31, 2017, 07:52:10 PM »
Looks like this solved the large card issue

Seems to have solved mine. The 64GB Transcend card I mentioned previously, appears to work fine now. But, since no formal approved media list has appeared yet, I'd still proceed with caution, and not assume anything. Transcend cards specifically, have never shown up on any Sound Devices approved card lists, that I'm aware of (they seem to favor Class 10 SanDisk & Delkin). For peace of mind, I've since ordered the Sound Devices 32GB card (#SAM-32SD). I can live with 32GB...

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #122 on: May 31, 2017, 08:54:43 PM »
What would be nice to find is a USB battery/cable combination for the MixPre-6 that:

1. Fully powers the device (green plug symbol rather than orange).
2. Uses only one USB C cable (no USB A "Y splitters").

If anyone clearly identifies such a combination, please do say.

This cable works for me with 4 channels phantom and 5/6 aux in (green plug!!!). I've run it off a 20,000mah power bank, an Omni charge, a Tekkeon and my MacBook Pro.  All off a single USB socket.  It has a down angle USB C plug that won't interfere with the XLR input.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162439366511

Can you link to the power bank you are using? I'm also having a very hard time finding a combination that powers the MP6 fully (green indicator).

Thanks!

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #123 on: May 31, 2017, 09:09:09 PM »
What would be nice to find is a USB battery/cable combination for the MixPre-6 that:

1. Fully powers the device (green plug symbol rather than orange).
2. Uses only one USB C cable (no USB A "Y splitters").

If anyone clearly identifies such a combination, please do say.

This cable works for me with 4 channels phantom and 5/6 aux in (green plug!!!). I've run it off a 20,000mah power bank, an Omni charge, a Tekkeon and my MacBook Pro.  All off a single USB socket.  It has a down angle USB C plug that won't interfere with the XLR input.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162439366511

Can you link to the power bank you are using? I'm also having a very hard time finding a combination that powers the MP6 fully (green indicator).

Thanks!

-Mike

I am using any USB battery with the cable I linked.  My guess is the cable you are using is the problem.  Buy the one I linked, problem solved.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #124 on: May 31, 2017, 09:19:10 PM »
anyone test if it will go from a dead external (via usb) to "internal" AA's seamlessly?

if so... i think running a 20000 mah anker pack and four AA's would be just fine for most circumstances, right?

It will. Also it will seamlessly switch from the USB power to AA's if you need to swap out the USB battery.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #125 on: May 31, 2017, 09:32:02 PM »
> Looks like the Sony L sleds will be needed for these.  Disappointing.

Why not an Anker-style battery? I hated the L batteries when I had a 744. Took forever to charge. In my experience Anker types charge fast and have a higher capacity. The slim ones seem less bulky in a bag.
whats considered "fast"?
I have two Rav Power that I use, both are just over 10,000 mah and they take prob close to 18 hrs from dead to full with a 1a iPhone charger.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #126 on: June 01, 2017, 01:05:42 AM »
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I have a pair of right angle stubby interconnects that are terminated so they point up, those go into my Naiant PFA's.
I really need to get a right angle USB-C cable, I like the few that were linked in this thread that terminate so that it points down.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #127 on: June 01, 2017, 06:21:34 AM »
I only got my MixPre-D some 9 months ago but now i'm wondering why i should still hold onto it? Much dearer along than the MixPre 3. In fact larger too.

Just taking a guess here as I don't have one of these recorders and haven't read through the manual, but couldn't you still use your MixPre-D as a mic preamp and run it into the "Aux/Mic In" input on the side to record a few more microphone channels?  Honest question as I don't know if that input is stereo or how it can be utilized on a separate track.  Apologies if I'm mistaken. 

This is also why an AES (or even SPDIF) input would've been a welcome addition on the MixPre-3/6 series.  Could take advantage of the extra channels that don't have XLR inputs.

Cheers, but i don't think i really need more than 3 channels as it is. Perhaps i'll hold onto it a little while longer.. Anyone in Sydney Oz wanna buy it off of me? :)

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #128 on: June 01, 2017, 10:02:54 AM »
What would be nice to find is a USB battery/cable combination for the MixPre-6 that:

1. Fully powers the device (green plug symbol rather than orange).
2. Uses only one USB C cable (no USB A "Y splitters").

If anyone clearly identifies such a combination, please do say.

This cable works for me with 4 channels phantom and 5/6 aux in (green plug!!!). I've run it off a 20,000mah power bank, an Omni charge, a Tekkeon and my MacBook Pro.  All off a single USB socket.  It has a down angle USB C plug that won't interfere with the XLR input.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162439366511

Can you link to the power bank you are using? I'm also having a very hard time finding a combination that powers the MP6 fully (green indicator).

Thanks!

-Mike

I am using any USB battery with the cable I linked.  My guess is the cable you are using is the problem.  Buy the one I linked, problem solved.

Thanks will do! I hope it gets here quick from China!

-Mike
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #129 on: June 01, 2017, 11:34:30 AM »
> whats considered "fast"?

Couple hours.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #130 on: June 01, 2017, 12:26:46 PM »
So my MP-6 arrived about about 5 pm yesterday. I got into line for TAB at Red Rocks at 4...so no trial run last night. Todd R did have his there, so I did get to check it out briefly.

Hooked mine up and have run into one issue, I'm getting a brief "USB Power Low" (or something like that). Flashing on the screen for a millisecond. Same message as I get if I unplug one of the USB-A plugs from the battery. It only happens a few times a minute so I think I'll be fine since in rolls over to the AA battery sled. Still, it's annoying.

My battery puts out 2.4 amps from each USB port (in theory). It should be getting enough power. This is what I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X5RV14Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Any idea what the issue could be? The USB-C cable doesn't seem super snug in there (a little wiggle room). Is that normal?

And for fucks sake...is that USB cable long enough? I need to pick something up that works that is A LOT shorter.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #131 on: June 01, 2017, 12:29:26 PM »
ya'all may know this one... but the USB-C (or USB3.1) standard voltage is 3 amps  most older usb types use 1.1 or 2 amps to send the power. Anker does make a USB batter with a 3 amp USB C output for proper voltage.
I've been schooling myself because I have a Nexus 6 P phone which uses USBC (aka USB3.1) such as this one: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-High-Capacity-Portable/dp/B014ZO46LK
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It's possible that with he newer USB C that the mixpre series may desire to be powered by the 3 amps and not 2 or 1.1 amps.
the MixPre 6 is tempting... for sure. --Ian
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #132 on: June 01, 2017, 12:32:49 PM »
My battery puts out 2.4 amps from each USB port (in theory). It should be getting enough power.

^^^^
See my comment above and below USB C standard voltage is 5 v 3 amps so 2.4 amps might *not* be enough...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #133 on: June 01, 2017, 01:03:03 PM »
ya'all may know this one... but the USB-C (or USB3.1) standard voltage is 3 amps  most older usb types use 1.1 or 2 amps to send the power. Anker does make a USB batter with a 3 amp USB C output for proper voltage.
I've been schooling myself because I have a Nexus 6 P phone which uses USBC (aka USB3.1) such as this one: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-High-Capacity-Portable/dp/B014ZO46LK
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MacBook Compatibility: In addition to standard functionality, USB-C Compatible: Fully compatible with the new MacBook (not MacBook Pro), charging at 5V/3A. USB-C port acts as input and output.


It's possible that with he newer USB C that the mixpre series may desire to be powered by the 3 amps and not 2 or 1.1 amps.
the MixPre 6 is tempting... for sure. --Ian

FWIW, the linked Anker battery (model 20100) apparently only puts out a max of 2.4 amps per port.  The 26800 model, however, apparently does put out a max of 3 amps per port.   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JIWQPMW?ref=emc_b_5_t

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #134 on: June 01, 2017, 01:45:15 PM »
> Looks like the Sony L sleds will be needed for these.  Disappointing.

Why not an Anker-style battery? I hated the L batteries when I had a 744. Took forever to charge. In my experience Anker types charge fast and have a higher capacity. The slim ones seem less bulky in a bag.

Agreed.  Forget trying to run these things on internal AA batteries.  The above recording times are a complete disaster.  Reminds me of the early days of the Fostex FR-2.   L batteries or external lithiums, like Tekkeon or Anker, are the way to go, imo

 

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