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Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2017, 11:15:15 AM »
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2017, 11:23:35 AM »
I'm wondering if the problem with SD cards larger than 32Gb has to do with this statement from the manual:

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Cards with a capacity of 32 GB or less will be formatted with the FAT32 file system. Cards with a capacity greater than 32 GB will be formatted with the exFAT file system.

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The exFAT file system is not compatible with Windows XP or Mac OS X 10.6.4 and lower.

I formatted a 64 Gb card via MixPre-3 and it worked (even when turning off and on) last night. Today it would not recognize the card. I can confirm the card was formatted to exFAT when I read on my computer.

Switching to a 32Gb card seems to have solved the issue. In my case I'm using Mac OS X 10.12.5 so I "should" be fine, but perhaps there's a glitch in their formatting system.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2017, 11:29:34 AM »
I'm wondering if the problem with SD cards larger than 32Gb has to do with this statement from the manual:

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Cards with a capacity of 32 GB or less will be formatted with the FAT32 file system. Cards with a capacity greater than 32 GB will be formatted with the exFAT file system.

They go on to write:

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The exFAT file system is not compatible with Windows XP or Mac OS X 10.6.4 and lower.

I formatted a 64 Gb card via MixPre-3 and it worked (even when turning off and on) last night. Today it would not recognize the card. Switching to a 32Gb card seems to have solved the issue. In my case I'm using Mac OS X 10.12.5 so I "should" be fine, but perhaps there's a glitch in their formatting system.
i would agree
The other person who had issues also was on a 64gb card
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2017, 11:43:09 AM »
Hey mitchellm....  I know it's been discussed, but can you tell me if the MixPre-3 can record two XLR inputs and 3.5mm (mini-stereo) input at the same time... for a total of 4 tracks??
And...  where is the power switch/button?
You seem to be the first person around here with a MP3 in your hands... 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2017, 11:56:40 AM »
Hey mitchellm....  I know it's been discussed, but can you tell me if the MixPre-3 can record two XLR inputs and 3.5mm (mini-stereo) input at the same time... for a total of 4 tracks??
And...  where is the power switch/button?

Power switch is on one side of the device. Same side as USB-C input/output and with 2 XLR inputs.

I have no idea about your more complicated question. Right now I'm just using it in basic mode until I get everything down pat. I'll be trying 3 XLR inputs this morning: two for right/left stereo from one mic (AT BP4025) and another for a regular interview mic (MD45) via the 3 inputs. I'll also test out basic 3.5mm stereo input today. If all goes well then I'll try your scenario on Sunday or Monday.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2017, 12:01:26 PM »
My very first impressions of the MixPre-3 so far are:

- smaller than I expected. Not a lot smaller, but still it makes for a very nice portable device to take when traveling.
- heavier than I expected (even with battery sled out). It feels really solid
- USB-C works fantastically well with it. Easy to record to software on my Mac directly. Easy to transfer files from MP3 to computer without removing SD card.
- the limiter is fantastic. I tried to get some sounds to clip by basically yelling into the mic. Just like with the USBPre-2 the limiters are fantastic.
- sound quality via preamps seems first rate. Haven't tested extensively at all, but so far I'm getting a really clean sound.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2017, 12:30:06 PM »
I'm almost positive it doesn't like cards bigger than 32gigs!!  There have been 3 reports of the problems with 64gig cards.  Haven't seen anyone post of success using one either.  Hopefully that gets resolved with firmware updates. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2017, 01:12:28 PM »
Has anyone done a runtime test on as batteries yet?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2017, 01:14:57 PM »
I'm almost positive it doesn't like cards bigger than 32gigs!!  There have been 3 reports of the problems with 64gig cards.  Haven't seen anyone post of success using one either.  Hopefully that gets resolved with firmware updates.

Agreed. I don't mind using 32 Gb cards: this will be more than sufficient for almost all (perhaps all) of my uses. But the specs claim cards up to 512 Gb can be used.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2017, 01:16:22 PM »
Has anyone done a runtime test on as batteries yet?

I probably won't have time to do this during the weekend with my MixPre-3. But in case I do have time, what's the best way to do a runtime test?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2017, 01:17:21 PM »
record your stereo till it cuts off ;)
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2017, 01:19:49 PM »
record your stereo till it cuts off ;)

Okay, but there's going to be a big difference between dynamic mics, phantom-powered, mini-plug, etc. I can run with 2 mics but what "type" or combo of types is going to be most helpful?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 01:24:04 PM »
Any plans to put the Wingman app out on the Android platform for us peasants?  I don't want to buy an old Apple device just to have remote control.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 01:56:01 PM »
New Tiptorial video's  from SD on the mixpre 3 and  6.
Basic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tUxxO9hF_c
Advanced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBznKUnfJ1Y
Nice vid on using skype with the Mixpre 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15TXTcmh5gU

 

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