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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2017, 02:20:42 PM »
All of these hirose options regulate to 8.4v so I'm under the impression that you can throw 9v-12v at it and be fine.  12v probably just generates a little more heat.
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #91 on: June 16, 2017, 02:27:09 PM »
What does the Hirose connect to in this scenario - a sled with multiple LMount batteries? Could you use a custom cable to 12v battery?

Cable like this. I'd ask tgakidis to make one instead of buying off Amazon though.
https://www.amazon.com/Hirose-Devices-Blackmagic-cinema-camera/dp/B01KK8MY5U/ref=pd_day0_421_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01KK8MY5U&pd_rd_r=VFVF5N3NFS7YPBTR1M7R&pd_rd_w=F40Si&pd_rd_wg=cReVA&psc=1&refRID=VFVF5N3NFS7YPBTR1M7R


Ah, thanks. I have one already for my F8

Actually, looking at the Hawkwinds product, it may have a male hirose plug on it. You might need a female cable made since I think most of the cables Ted makes are male plugs as well.

I am more likely to go for the other other company's product, as, with it, you dont need the l battery sled, and it has female hirose... I am set for the moment between battery sleds and USB-c battery so I'll let othere people figure out the details with these products
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #92 on: June 16, 2017, 07:38:07 PM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.

Thanks for the info on that! I'll be using the 8xAA or 4xAA Tray's with the USB C power supplies! In have NEVER liked those L-Series Lithium batteries, and I even avoided using them when I had my old SD722! If I do use the L-Series Mount, I'll DEFINITELY be using it with a Dummy Cell like Dactylus posted! That's how I used to power my old SD722 and was my preferred method of powering it!

Also folks, with the Dummy Cell wired correctly, you can even run 7.2v NIMH RC Packs! Obviously not as lightweight as Lithium, but IMO, NIMH is a more reliable and trusted technology! At least it USED to be! That's how I used to run my 722 and I have ALWAYS preferred NIMH technology to Lithium! I realize that USB batteries are just Lithium 18650 batteries, but I feel much safer running those because of the added technology that companies like Anker build into their chargers & USB Batteries! Anker has something called "Multi Protect" which has 10 different kinds of technology & regulators that make sure your devices being powered are as safe as possible!

Also, I got my MP6 yesterday, and ran it through some battery tests! I was using 2 year old Energizer 2,300mah NIMH AA's in my SD 4xAA Battery Tray! I ONLY GOT about 2 HOURS, whether the Bluetooth was on/off, as well as the LR Mix being on/off! I was running 4 channels of my 60v PFA's @24/96 directly into my MP6, which is what I plan to run 99% of the time, so that I can leave my heavy VMS02IB at home more often ;D I'm trying out a 10,000mah HoneyComb brand USB A Battery, with the included SD Dual USB A>C Cable, right now and I'll let yinz know about how long the 10,000mah battery runs!

I already have the Anker PowerCore+ 20,100mah USB C Battery & Anker 60w Powerline C>C Cable with Power Delivery, which should be here anyday! And I am DEF getting a few of those Monoprice USB C batteries linked above! I have some Monoprice USB items and they're a decent enough company IMO! Nowhere near as nice and reliable as an Ankerm IMO, but will still get the job done! Besides, Anker is the best USB company of anyone right now! ;) 8)
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2017, 09:34:11 PM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.
you can't beat the price and even if you did 4 ch plus the mix I bet your still get plenty of time, i.e. Over four hrs
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #94 on: June 16, 2017, 11:04:48 PM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.
you can't beat the price and even if you did 4 ch plus the mix I bet your still get plenty of time, i.e. Over four hrs

Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest Anker fan ever [big surprise huh? lol] and already have the approved/recommended Anker PowerCore+ 20,100 USB C battery & Anker 60w PowerLine C>C Cable with Power Delivery, but for the price of those Monoprice ones @$25 or so, I'll definitely be getting a couple of them to try out! I've had some Monoprice products over the last couple of years and they were all pretty good quality, so I'd imagine that these will do a great job for the MP3/6 and be a reliable USB C Battery! So thanks again for the link! I just saved it as a bookmark ;D +T
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #95 on: June 17, 2017, 12:06:05 AM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.
you can't beat the price and even if you did 4 ch plus the mix I bet your still get plenty of time, i.e. Over four hrs

Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest Anker fan ever [big surprise huh? lol] and already have the approved/recommended Anker PowerCore+ 20,100 USB C battery & Anker 60w PowerLine C>C Cable with Power Delivery, but for the price of those Monoprice ones @$25 or so, I'll definitely be getting a couple of them to try out! I've had some Monoprice products over the last couple of years and they were all pretty good quality, so I'd imagine that these will do a great job for the MP3/6 and be a reliable USB C Battery! So thanks again for the link! I just saved it as a bookmark ;D +T

Yeah, great price for you guys down there. More than twice that up here in the Great Frozen North (but a warm summer night tonight!). I managed to score one from an online Canadian dealer at 30% off so it was still worth it. They are light too, so you could carry a couple in your bag.
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #96 on: June 20, 2017, 07:01:50 PM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.

Thanks - just ordered 1.  What cable are you using w/ the monoprice?
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #97 on: June 20, 2017, 07:10:51 PM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.

Thanks - just ordered 1.  What cable are you using w/ the monoprice?

I'm using this one:

AmazonBasics USB Type-C to USB Type-C 2.0 Cable - 6 Feet (1.8 Meters) - Black

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-Type-C-2-0-Cable/dp/B01GGKZ1VA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497999887&sr=8-2&keywords=AmazonBasics+USB+Type-C+to+USB+Type-C+2.0+Cable+-+6+Feet+%281.8+Meters%29+-+Black

It's actually too long because it's doing double duty as the connecting cable from the MP6 to an A/C wall charger. But I've ordered a shorter cable. This one:

Fosmon USB-C to USB-C Sync Charge Data Cable

https://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-Charge-Nintendo-Switch-MacBook/dp/B01F9DEORM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497973013&sr=8-1&keywords=B01F9DEORM

I think both cables are well reviewed by the USB-C online guru Benson Leung.
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #98 on: June 20, 2017, 11:03:41 PM »
I did a battery test with the Monoprice Executive Series Portable Charger, 15,000 mAh USB-C Power Bank, 5.4A Output

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=16240

Running the MP6 at 24/192, recording only on Channels 1 & 2 (did NOT record the LR MIX tracks), phantom power on both channels, Bluetooth OFF, LCD at 1, LED at 2, plugged into the Monoprice, I got just over 12 hours runtime.

Thanks - just ordered 1.  What cable are you using w/ the monoprice?

I'm using this one:

AmazonBasics USB Type-C to USB Type-C 2.0 Cable - 6 Feet (1.8 Meters) - Black

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-Type-C-2-0-Cable/dp/B01GGKZ1VA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497999887&sr=8-2&keywords=AmazonBasics+USB+Type-C+to+USB+Type-C+2.0+Cable+-+6+Feet+%281.8+Meters%29+-+Black

It's actually too long because it's doing double duty as the connecting cable from the MP6 to an A/C wall charger. But I've ordered a shorter cable. This one:

Fosmon USB-C to USB-C Sync Charge Data Cable

https://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-Charge-Nintendo-Switch-MacBook/dp/B01F9DEORM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497973013&sr=8-1&keywords=B01F9DEORM

I think both cables are well reviewed by the USB-C online guru Benson Leung.


thanks a million dogmusic.  I ordered 2  lengths. :coolguy:
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2017, 06:30:22 AM »
http://www.pinknoise-systems.co.uk/ have made some 4 pin regulated Hirose power adapter prototypes that they say should be up for sale in a few weeks. 


Found on the SD MP3/6 FB forum.

This is now for sale on the Pinknoise site. £165...

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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #101 on: June 28, 2017, 02:38:01 AM »

Hello, nice to meet you.  :)
I recently bought a MixPre-6 and found this forum.
And I want to ask for advice.

I bought a "RAVPower 26800 PD USB-C Charger 26800mAh" with MixPre-6, but RAVPower can not supply power to USB-C devices with a USB-C connection.

[Specification]
-- Micro USB Input: DC 5V/2A
-- Type-C Input: DC 5V/3A,9V/2A,15V/2A,20V/1.5A
-- Type-C Output: DC 5V/3A,9V/2A,15V/2A,20V/1.5A
-- iSmart USB Output: DC 5V/3.4A Total(Each 2.4A Max)
-- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRQDAEI

Anyway, I plugged the "USB-A to Micro USB(And plug the USB-C adapter into the Micro USB connector)" cable into the RAVPower's USB-A port and plugged the other end into the USB-C port of the MixPre-6.
It's not full power, but it works. (Power Status Icon = Orange USB)

I have connected two stereo microphones(battery powered) and RodeLink(mono), and stereo mix and ISO track recording is fine. (stereo mix LR tracks plus 5 isolated tracks).

Is it ok to use this?
I am afraid that MixPre-6 will fail.

The "USB-to-Micro USB" cable and the "Micro USB to USB-C adapter" used the one provided with RAVPower.
Perhaps this is the same product.
-- https://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-Transfer-Charging-ChromeBook-Supported/dp/B071P7GK84


I am sorry that English is poor.  :-[
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2017, 01:46:32 PM »

Hello, nice to meet you.  :)
I recently bought a MixPre-6 and found this forum.
And I want to ask for advice.

I bought a "RAVPower 26800 PD USB-C Charger 26800mAh" with MixPre-6, but RAVPower can not supply power to USB-C devices with a USB-C connection.

[Specification]
-- Micro USB Input: DC 5V/2A
-- Type-C Input: DC 5V/3A,9V/2A,15V/2A,20V/1.5A
-- Type-C Output: DC 5V/3A,9V/2A,15V/2A,20V/1.5A
-- iSmart USB Output: DC 5V/3.4A Total(Each 2.4A Max)
-- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRQDAEI

Anyway, I plugged the "USB-A to Micro USB(And plug the USB-C adapter into the Micro USB connector)" cable into the RAVPower's USB-A port and plugged the other end into the USB-C port of the MixPre-6.
It's not full power, but it works. (Power Status Icon = Orange USB)

I have connected two stereo microphones(battery powered) and RodeLink(mono), and stereo mix and ISO track recording is fine. (stereo mix LR tracks plus 5 isolated tracks).

Is it ok to use this?
I am afraid that MixPre-6 will fail.

The "USB-to-Micro USB" cable and the "Micro USB to USB-C adapter" used the one provided with RAVPower.
Perhaps this is the same product.
-- https://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-Transfer-Charging-ChromeBook-Supported/dp/B071P7GK84


I am sorry that English is poor.  :-[
Thank you for reading.

I have the same battery and use the USB C to USB C with no issues at all. It will supply the correct power much like the Anker battery.
Your battery powered mics should be fine, just make sure phantom power (p48) is off.
Your English is fine, good luck!
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #103 on: June 29, 2017, 02:01:38 PM »
Thank you for your answers and advice.  :D
After reading this article, I was worried and posted an article.  :o


The MixPre is not looking for 3A. It needs 1.5A at 5V i.e. 7.5W

A USB-C to A cable that has a built-in resistor to allow the MixPre to draw full power from a USB-A power source that can't deliver 7.5W could potentially damage your USB power source or cause the MixPre to not function properly. You use these cables at your own risk. Be sure that your USB-A source can deliver 7.5W (1.5A at 5V)

I will use this connection(Power Status Icon = Orange USB) for a while until I get a replacement.
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Re: Mix-Pre 3/6 USB Batteries (what works and what doesn't)
« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2017, 02:51:20 PM »
Thank you for your answers and advice.  :D
After reading this article, I was worried and posted an article.  :o


The MixPre is not looking for 3A. It needs 1.5A at 5V i.e. 7.5W

A USB-C to A cable that has a built-in resistor to allow the MixPre to draw full power from a USB-A power source that can't deliver 7.5W could potentially damage your USB power source or cause the MixPre to not function properly. You use these cables at your own risk. Be sure that your USB-A source can deliver 7.5W (1.5A at 5V)

I will use this connection(Power Status Icon = Orange USB) for a while until I get a replacement.
The comments above are not related to USB C to USB C. They are related to the many USB A to USB C cables being sold that do not have the proper resistor. There are within these pages links to USB A to USB C cables that are safe. But that is geared toward the older batteries that do not have any USB C capabilities. The Rav Power battery you have purchased is designed to go USB C to USB C, so if you have the USB C to USB C cable that came with it, you will be fine. Running under the orange color from what I have read (I have no personal experience) means that you can only run 2 channels as it is in safety mode.

Also remember you can email Sound Devices directly. I have done so and I received a response within a day.
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