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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2018, 10:20:08 PM »
"2x mic/line inputs on TA3, electronically balanced, with phase reversal, 48V phantom, LF cut and level control on the front panel"
They all seem to have drunk the kool-aid.

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Words’ meanings develope and change over time.

Descriptively, phase and polarity are synonymous in this context.


Marketing kids these days.  Everything has to be all sexed up.

Descriptive and real, not so much.



Here's a great article that I found on B&H Photo's site, of all places, that reinforces my argument, noahbickart.  This is where I'm coming from:


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/audio/tips-and-solutions/polarity-vs-phase-whats-the-difference


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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2018, 08:03:55 AM »
From a user standpoint, as long as you know what this control does and how to use it, all is fine. The Capn has a valid point, however. In terms of what this control does to the audio waveform," phase inverting" would be the most accurate description. The generally accepted end-user term has always been "polarity reverse" Throwing in a 3rd term of "phase reverse" tends to muddy the water a bit. I'm all for keeping things as simple as possible.   

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2018, 11:59:43 AM »
wonder if this box will be knocked back to usa 114 db .the usa version of the sxr4+ is 114 db the swiss version is 135 db. maybe zaxcom can only stop the recorder version.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2018, 01:32:56 PM »
wonder if this box will be knocked back to usa 114 db .the usa version of the sxr4+ is 114 db the swiss version is 135 db. maybe zaxcom can only stop the recorder version.

(Taperssection Reference thread to the "compromised sxr4+  USA version":   http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=170590.msg2164551#msg2164551   )

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The following is taken from a recent post from the Facebook Sonosax users group regarding the new SX-M2D2:

"Michael Hughes - Will there have to be a 'compromised' US version without dual A/Ds like the R4+? 

Sono Sax - That product can be sold worldwide with the dual A/D input stage"

Performance
135 dB (A-weighted) overall dynamic range
THD < 0.001%
90 kHz overall frequency response @192kHz
24-bit 48/96/192kHz
« Last Edit: December 15, 2018, 01:45:43 PM by dactylus »
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2018, 02:27:35 PM »
well you can count me in on one of these.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2018, 11:43:08 AM »
Gotta love Sax...post pics and product specs before they finish design.  People had to wait a looong time from announcement to release of the sx-m4+. They haven't started taking pre-orders so looks like early 2019 might be optimistic.

Any bets what this comes in at?  I'll wager a starting guess of $1699.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2018, 12:49:02 PM »
I'm thinking the preorder price will be about 1200usd . the sxr4+ at 6000usd 4 pres = !500 per pre. plus size and lack of other features . at least thats what i hope.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2018, 01:26:03 PM »
Gotta love Sax...post pics and product specs before they finish design.  People had to wait a looong time from announcement to release of the sx-m4+. They haven't started taking pre-orders so looks like early 2019 might be optimistic.

Any bets what this comes in at?  I'll wager a starting guess of $1699.

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Rumor has it that the price will be in the $1300 range...
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2018, 11:18:43 AM »
wonder if this box will be knocked back to usa 114 db .the usa version of the sxr4+ is 114 db the swiss version is 135 db. maybe zaxcom can only stop the recorder version.

(Taperssection Reference thread to the "compromised sxr4+  USA version":   http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=170590.msg2164551#msg2164551   )

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The following is taken from a recent post from the Facebook Sonosax users group regarding the new SX-M2D2:

"Michael Hughes - Will there have to be a 'compromised' US version without dual A/Ds like the R4+? 

Sono Sax - That product can be sold worldwide with the dual A/D input stage"

Performance
135 dB (A-weighted) overall dynamic range
THD < 0.001%
90 kHz overall frequency response @192kHz
24-bit 48/96/192kHz


This is probably because the device itself is not a recorder (i.e. the way Zaxcom filed the patent).  I bet the SX-AD8+ is the same way
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2018, 12:19:27 PM »
This looks really promising.

I just picked up an R4+ and am blown away by its quality. I do nature recording and find the mike preamps and AD stage as good as it gets for my purposes.

One thing that I find especially nice about the R4+ is the DAC/Headphone stage. It's truly exceptional and rivals all the preemo DACs I've heard. That number isn't very high, but my point stands, I think.

If Sax is able to match the DAC on the R4+ with this new device, I should think that it would be a perfect capture/mixing machine.


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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2018, 07:49:26 PM »
Hmmm. "Polarity" would be more apt, but that doesn't make "phase" wrong. Inverting the signal polarity causes all the components of the signal--conceived of as individual sinusoids at each frequency where significant energy is present, like in a Fourier transform--to be phase-shifted 180 degrees from their previous selves.

It's a degenerate case of phase distortion, if you will. (And if you won't, then happy holidays anyway.)

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« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 11:17:42 AM by DSatz »
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