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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2019, 10:35:56 AM »
SX-M2D2
Impatiently awaited, this new compact pre-amplifier is now in the final stages of development. Delivery date and price will be announced in early 2019

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2019, 10:57:45 AM »
According to John Willett on the Gear Slutz Forum it was shown at the AES show in Dublin. He did say he saw it and talked to Sonosax but did not offer any other comments or price.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2019, 07:23:23 PM »
This is an authorized dealer showing €1,253 ($1,408).

http://www.noyzboyz.nl/Producten/Sonosax/SX-M2D2/sonosax-sx-m2d2-preamplifier
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2019, 07:43:25 PM »

That page hasn't been updated in a while. But that plus the new SPDR via AES might be the dream rig for those running two channels only.

SPDR is not bit accurate sadly
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2019, 03:05:43 PM »
I just heard from a US dealer: $1390.00, shipping in June.

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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2019, 05:10:48 PM »

That page hasn't been updated in a while. But that plus the new SPDR via AES might be the dream rig for those running two channels only.

SPDR is not bit accurate sadly

I wonder which of the small recorders with a spdif input will take the aes output from this.
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2019, 08:03:14 AM »

That page hasn't been updated in a while. But that plus the new SPDR via AES might be the dream rig for those running two channels only.

SPDR is not bit accurate sadly

I wonder which of the small recorders with a spdif input will take the aes output from this.

with USB interface couldnt you just use a phone ? or anything capable of recording a usb input ?
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2019, 08:22:52 AM »
with USB interface couldnt you just use a phone ? or anything capable of recording a usb input ?


Yes - that's one of it's design points - to be paired with an iPhone, etc.
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2019, 11:33:29 AM »
unless its asynchronous the usb signal will almost certainly be a compromise relative to spdif in terms of jitter
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2019, 12:49:25 PM »
unless its asynchronous the usb signal will almost certainly be a compromise relative to spdif in terms of jitter


I would be very surprised if it is not an asynchronous usb signal.    I haven't seen a USB audio product in years that is not asynchronous and would think Sonosax of all companies would think of this design limitation.



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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2019, 01:33:12 PM »
unless its asynchronous the usb signal will almost certainly be a compromise relative to spdif in terms of jitter


I would be very surprised if it is not an asynchronous usb signal.    I haven't seen a USB audio product in years that is not asynchronous and would think Sonosax of all companies would think of this design limitation.

they dont advertise it as such. its advertised as "USB 2.0" which doesnt tell us anything as it can be adaptive or asynchronous. Dont assume that just because they make great audio hardware, that they make great computer interfaces.
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2019, 02:51:28 PM »
wow, I never considered the usb.

Does anyone think we might be able to get it to work with the mixpre6 via usb?
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2019, 03:38:33 PM »
wow, I never considered the usb.

Does anyone think we might be able to get it to work with the mixpre6 via usb?


Probably not as the USB on the MixPre is used to connect to a host device.  The host device treats the MicPre as a "slave" device and controls the MixPre.


The MixPre would need to be able to be a host device and support audio devices plugged into it to make this work (associated drivers/firmware support) would be required on the MixPre - physically it may be possible with the USBC connector but unless the mixpre can control the sonosax it would not work.


 


 
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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2019, 03:45:23 PM »
unless its asynchronous the usb signal will almost certainly be a compromise relative to spdif in terms of jitter


I would be very surprised if it is not an asynchronous usb signal.    I haven't seen a USB audio product in years that is not asynchronous and would think Sonosax of all companies would think of this design limitation.

they dont advertise it as such. its advertised as "USB 2.0" which doesnt tell us anything as it can be adaptive or asynchronous. Dont assume that just because they make great audio hardware, that they make great computer interfaces.


Well don't assume the opposite - Other usb devices on the market such as the SD MixPre and USBPre2 series don't advertise as supporting asynchronous USB either - should we assume it is unacceptable to use them as USB interfaces as well?



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Re: Sonosax SX-M2D2 Coming...
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2019, 12:23:32 AM »
wow, I never considered the usb.

Does anyone think we might be able to get it to work with the mixpre6 via usb?

USB Audio is listed as one of the various inputs on the mixpre6 spec sheet.
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