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Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« on: October 26, 2017, 01:15:04 PM »
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1367739-REG/sennheiser_ambeo_smart_headset_in_ear.html




Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET In-Ear Headphones with Three Built-In Microphones, Inline Remote, and Lightning Connector

Product Highlights

    Lightning Connector
    Selectable Active Noise Cancellation
    Omnidirectional Microphones in Earpieces
    Inline Microphone in Remote
    Apogee Soft Limit and Microphone Preamp
    Adjustable Mic Sensitivity
    20 Hz to 20 kHz Frequency Response
    Programmable Smart Slider
    Inline Remote Control



anyone know anything about these or have experience ?
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2017, 01:42:35 PM »
Those look interesting. Only slightly out of the fuck it...I'll try them range.

I wonder if they will still work with a Lightning > USB-C adapter.

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2017, 01:50:15 PM »
Those look interesting. Only slightly out of the fuck it...I'll try them range.

I wonder if they will still work with a Lightning > USB-C adapter.

was thinking the same
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2017, 06:37:14 PM »
This video says Android version coming soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BFlR2RFiH4

...I'll wait for that vs. running an adapter.

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 12:03:23 PM »
Potentially very cool.  Wonder if the active noise-cancellation has enough headroom to not clip when pounded by heavy bass.  Wonder if the app will support dynamic attenuation, effectively reducing the attenuation when the SPL drops.  Always wanted to dial in my own personalized ear-plug EQ attenuation curve.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 07:40:13 PM »
I snapped some photos of the AMBEO VR model (tetrahedral mic). 

They are here:
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2018, 08:01:14 PM »
Charlie Hunter Trio 8/8/18 -one set was dpa 4061+d:vice, another was ambeo headset- can you guess which?

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2018, 09:10:35 PM »
Potentially very cool.  Wonder if the active noise-cancellation has enough headroom to not clip when pounded by heavy bass.  Wonder if the app will support dynamic attenuation, effectively reducing the attenuation when the SPL drops.  Always wanted to dial in my own personalized ear-plug EQ attenuation curve.

Says it has the Apogee Soft-Limit.  Might it be like the Soft-Limit on the minime?
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2018, 09:58:05 PM »
not sure the soft limit will help if the caps are reaching their SPL limit
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2018, 10:49:59 PM »
Charlie Hunter Trio 8/8/18 -one set was dpa 4061+d:vice, another was ambeo headset- can you guess which?

Personnel:
Charlie Hunter: 7-string
Damon Grant: Percussion
Lucy Woodward: Vocals

V0 mp3:

streamable google drive:
https://tinyurl.com/cht-tahoe

downloadable rar:
https://tinyurl.com/cht-tahoe-rar

Playback on B&W P3 headphonesSet 1 sounds more natural to me and I prefer the sound of that file set. They both sound good to me though and I would be happy with the results of both.

I'm really curious how these would do with a show with much higher SPL levels.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2018, 04:55:16 AM »
Charlie Hunter Trio 8/8/18 -one set was dpa 4061+d:vice, another was ambeo headset- can you guess which?

Personnel:
Charlie Hunter: 7-string
Damon Grant: Percussion
Lucy Woodward: Vocals

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First set seemed a brighter sound (my preference) - is there a left/right reversal between the two sets??

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2018, 10:12:07 AM »
possibly, i rarely pay attention to which mic goes where

listen for woohoo guy on my immediate right
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2018, 10:14:02 PM »
Whats the verdict on these mics?  Can they handle the high SPL of String Cheese Incident or similar bands?

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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2018, 10:29:53 PM »
havent cheesed in a while but might see a metal show on tuesday
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2019, 02:10:08 AM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

EDIT: Had a hard time getting the files transferred. I had to use iTunes, which I had thought was discontinued.

SAMPLES:

I should be noted that I did not put much effort into this recording. Mics where basically clipped to my shirt, but they were in a nice spot in the venue and had a direct "line of sight" to the PA. Basically directly behind/slightly above the SBD.

Band is Sleater-Kinney. I thought it sounded OK. Venue (Ogden in Denver) is capable of sounding amazing. Probably not the best band to test mics with. They are pretty noisey. Not a lot of dynamic range with these guys.

Original file (converted from 24/48 > 16/44.1 only):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/daerd7nf6dqiowq/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20Original.wav?dl=0

EQ'd file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fch9tw2zncs7uwa/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20EQ.wav?dl=0

...

Overall, I'm not impressed. Hopefully it was more of mic placement (too low) with a sub-par sounding show.

Trying again this week for a quieter band in a better sounding venue. Will report back with that when ASAP.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2019, 04:17:38 AM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

EDIT: Had a hard time getting the files transferred. I had to use iTunes, which I had thought was discontinued.

CopyTrans suite can copy files for free (copy trans Apps module)
also sandisk flash usb drives can copy them directly from iphone

like most omnis, they sound better when baffled by your head or some distance (or binaural like these are meant to be used)
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2019, 06:16:38 PM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

I should be noted that I did not put much effort into this recording. Mics where basically clipped to my shirt, but they were in a nice spot in the venue and had a direct "line of sight" to the PA. Basically directly behind/slightly above the SBD.

Band is Sleater-Kinney. I thought it sounded OK. Venue (Ogden in Denver) is capable of sounding amazing. Probably not the best band to test mics with. They are pretty noisey. Not a lot of dynamic range with these guys.

Overall, I'm not impressed. Hopefully it was more of mic placement (too low) with a sub-par sounding show.

Trying again this week for a quieter band in a better sounding venue. Will report back with that when ASAP.

Sounds like it can't handle the SPL's of that kind of show.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2019, 06:33:32 PM »
Badly clipped.These microphones need to be hacked for 3 wire operation.Then they would sound "OK".
After that, capsules should be replaced with MKE2 or similar quality.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2019, 06:43:25 PM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

EDIT: Had a hard time getting the files transferred. I had to use iTunes, which I had thought was discontinued.

SAMPLES:

I should be noted that I did not put much effort into this recording. Mics where basically clipped to my shirt, but they were in a nice spot in the venue and had a direct "line of sight" to the PA. Basically directly behind/slightly above the SBD.

Band is Sleater-Kinney. I thought it sounded OK. Venue (Ogden in Denver) is capable of sounding amazing. Probably not the best band to test mics with. They are pretty noisey. Not a lot of dynamic range with these guys.

Original file (converted from 24/48 > 16/44.1 only):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/daerd7nf6dqiowq/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20Original.wav?dl=0

EQ'd file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fch9tw2zncs7uwa/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20EQ.wav?dl=0

...

Overall, I'm not impressed. Hopefully it was more of mic placement (too low) with a sub-par sounding show.

Trying again this week for a quieter band in a better sounding venue. Will report back with that when ASAP.

Did you have the smart headset setting for the LOW concert setting?

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2019, 07:36:58 PM »
^ Yes. I think at least. I had something set to something like Less Sensitive in the Sennheiser AMBEO SmartHeadset app.

Recording was done in the Apogee Metarecorder app (which didn't seem to have a way to control levels).

Levels seemed to be good, but the sound could be better.

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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2019, 08:00:08 PM »
^ Yes. I think at least. I had something set to something like Less Sensitive in the Sennheiser AMBEO SmartHeadset app.

Recording was done in the Apogee Metarecorder app (which didn't seem to have a way to control levels).

its dependent on the device used. metarecorder with d:vice has levels for both channels independent or ganged
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2019, 01:04:59 AM »
OK! I tried this time. Was in the sweet spot. Wore the mics in my ears. Other than the crowd being fairly rowdy for being pretty old...the recording turned out decent.

I wouldn't be satisfied if all of my recordings were of this quality but for shows that I'd like a copy without having to jump through too many hoops for a stealth job they are pretty good.

Here's a sample. I have applied a bit of EQ (the master is pretty boomy), and a tad bit of compression.

https://soundcloud.com/fatah-ruark/bob-dylan-simple-twist-of-fate-live

EDIT:
Full show audio here. I did add a bit more EQ and Compression to this version (feel free to let me know which one you like more):
https://youtu.be/X3sHVgTBhOQ
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2019, 04:04:31 AM »
If budget isnt a huge issue 4061s in croakies crush them every time and is actually more low pro.
OK! I tried this time. Was in the sweet spot. Wore the mics in my ears. Other than the crowd being fairly rowdy for being pretty old...the recording turned out decent.

I wouldn't be satisfied if all of my recordings were of this quality but for shows that I'd like a copy without having to jump through too many hoops for a stealth job they are pretty good.

Here's a sample. I have applied a bit of EQ (the master is pretty boomy), and a tad bit of compression.

https://soundcloud.com/fatah-ruark/bob-dylan-simple-twist-of-fate-live

EDIT:
Full show audio here. I did add a bit more EQ and Compression to this version (feel free to let me know which one you like more):
https://youtu.be/X3sHVgTBhOQ
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2019, 03:07:17 PM »
Here's another recoding from these mics. They still do a good job (IMO) for $99.

This was a louder show and I was worried about the levels going over / distortion and I don't hear anything.

Unfortunately I learned (the hard way) that MetaRecorder doesn't start a new file after 2GB (or if it does, I have some setting wrong). I started the recording about 40 minutes before the band went on and never looked at the app after that. Next time I will wait until the band starts. :D ...I made it almost to the encore. Wish I had at least checked during the encore break if it was still rolling.

Band is Pigface (offshoot from Ministry).

https://youtu.be/PwwyUtHx1zc

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2019, 08:53:28 PM »
Unfortunately I learned (the hard way) that MetaRecorder doesn't start a new file after 2GB (or if it does, I have some setting wrong).

set it to write to .CAF instead of .WAV and it will roll all night
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2019, 10:04:41 PM »
Unfortunately I learned (the hard way) that MetaRecorder doesn't start a new file after 2GB (or if it does, I have some setting wrong).

set it to write to .CAF instead of .WAV and it will roll all night

Sweet. You've answered quite a few of my questions lately. Thanks.
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