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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2019, 02:10:08 AM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

EDIT: Had a hard time getting the files transferred. I had to use iTunes, which I had thought was discontinued.

SAMPLES:

I should be noted that I did not put much effort into this recording. Mics where basically clipped to my shirt, but they were in a nice spot in the venue and had a direct "line of sight" to the PA. Basically directly behind/slightly above the SBD.

Band is Sleater-Kinney. I thought it sounded OK. Venue (Ogden in Denver) is capable of sounding amazing. Probably not the best band to test mics with. They are pretty noisey. Not a lot of dynamic range with these guys.

Original file (converted from 24/48 > 16/44.1 only):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/daerd7nf6dqiowq/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20Original.wav?dl=0

EQ'd file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fch9tw2zncs7uwa/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20EQ.wav?dl=0

...

Overall, I'm not impressed. Hopefully it was more of mic placement (too low) with a sub-par sounding show.

Trying again this week for a quieter band in a better sounding venue. Will report back with that when ASAP.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2019, 04:17:38 AM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

EDIT: Had a hard time getting the files transferred. I had to use iTunes, which I had thought was discontinued.

CopyTrans suite can copy files for free (copy trans Apps module)
also sandisk flash usb drives can copy them directly from iphone

like most omnis, they sound better when baffled by your head or some distance (or binaural like these are meant to be used)
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2019, 06:16:38 PM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

I should be noted that I did not put much effort into this recording. Mics where basically clipped to my shirt, but they were in a nice spot in the venue and had a direct "line of sight" to the PA. Basically directly behind/slightly above the SBD.

Band is Sleater-Kinney. I thought it sounded OK. Venue (Ogden in Denver) is capable of sounding amazing. Probably not the best band to test mics with. They are pretty noisey. Not a lot of dynamic range with these guys.

Overall, I'm not impressed. Hopefully it was more of mic placement (too low) with a sub-par sounding show.

Trying again this week for a quieter band in a better sounding venue. Will report back with that when ASAP.

Sounds like it can't handle the SPL's of that kind of show.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2019, 06:33:32 PM »
Badly clipped.These microphones need to be hacked for 3 wire operation.Then they would sound "OK".
After that, capsules should be replaced with MKE2 or similar quality.
Could still be useful in office/ work/ home environments.
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2019, 06:43:25 PM »
Finally got a chance to try these things at a couple of real shows. Setting audio levels

I ran Ambeo Headset > iPod Touch 32GB > Apogee Metarecorder.

EDIT: Had a hard time getting the files transferred. I had to use iTunes, which I had thought was discontinued.

SAMPLES:

I should be noted that I did not put much effort into this recording. Mics where basically clipped to my shirt, but they were in a nice spot in the venue and had a direct "line of sight" to the PA. Basically directly behind/slightly above the SBD.

Band is Sleater-Kinney. I thought it sounded OK. Venue (Ogden in Denver) is capable of sounding amazing. Probably not the best band to test mics with. They are pretty noisey. Not a lot of dynamic range with these guys.

Original file (converted from 24/48 > 16/44.1 only):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/daerd7nf6dqiowq/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20Original.wav?dl=0

EQ'd file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fch9tw2zncs7uwa/Ambeo%20Test%20-%20EQ.wav?dl=0

...

Overall, I'm not impressed. Hopefully it was more of mic placement (too low) with a sub-par sounding show.

Trying again this week for a quieter band in a better sounding venue. Will report back with that when ASAP.

Did you have the smart headset setting for the LOW concert setting?

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2019, 07:36:58 PM »
^ Yes. I think at least. I had something set to something like Less Sensitive in the Sennheiser AMBEO SmartHeadset app.

Recording was done in the Apogee Metarecorder app (which didn't seem to have a way to control levels).

Levels seemed to be good, but the sound could be better.

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2019, 08:00:08 PM »
^ Yes. I think at least. I had something set to something like Less Sensitive in the Sennheiser AMBEO SmartHeadset app.

Recording was done in the Apogee Metarecorder app (which didn't seem to have a way to control levels).

its dependent on the device used. metarecorder with d:vice has levels for both channels independent or ganged
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2019, 01:04:59 AM »
OK! I tried this time. Was in the sweet spot. Wore the mics in my ears. Other than the crowd being fairly rowdy for being pretty old...the recording turned out decent.

I wouldn't be satisfied if all of my recordings were of this quality but for shows that I'd like a copy without having to jump through too many hoops for a stealth job they are pretty good.

Here's a sample. I have applied a bit of EQ (the master is pretty boomy), and a tad bit of compression.

https://soundcloud.com/fatah-ruark/bob-dylan-simple-twist-of-fate-live

EDIT:
Full show audio here. I did add a bit more EQ and Compression to this version (feel free to let me know which one you like more):
https://youtu.be/X3sHVgTBhOQ
« Last Edit: October 18, 2019, 03:34:16 AM by Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) »
||| MICS:  Beyer CK930 ~ DPA 4080 ~ Nevaton MCE400 ~ Countryman B3 ~ Sennheiser Ambeo Headset |||
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2019, 04:04:31 AM »
If budget isnt a huge issue 4061s in croakies crush them every time and is actually more low pro.
OK! I tried this time. Was in the sweet spot. Wore the mics in my ears. Other than the crowd being fairly rowdy for being pretty old...the recording turned out decent.

I wouldn't be satisfied if all of my recordings were of this quality but for shows that I'd like a copy without having to jump through too many hoops for a stealth job they are pretty good.

Here's a sample. I have applied a bit of EQ (the master is pretty boomy), and a tad bit of compression.

https://soundcloud.com/fatah-ruark/bob-dylan-simple-twist-of-fate-live

EDIT:
Full show audio here. I did add a bit more EQ and Compression to this version (feel free to let me know which one you like more):
https://youtu.be/X3sHVgTBhOQ
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2019, 03:07:17 PM »
Here's another recoding from these mics. They still do a good job (IMO) for $99.

This was a louder show and I was worried about the levels going over / distortion and I don't hear anything.

Unfortunately I learned (the hard way) that MetaRecorder doesn't start a new file after 2GB (or if it does, I have some setting wrong). I started the recording about 40 minutes before the band went on and never looked at the app after that. Next time I will wait until the band starts. :D ...I made it almost to the encore. Wish I had at least checked during the encore break if it was still rolling.

Band is Pigface (offshoot from Ministry).

https://youtu.be/PwwyUtHx1zc

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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2019, 08:53:28 PM »
Unfortunately I learned (the hard way) that MetaRecorder doesn't start a new file after 2GB (or if it does, I have some setting wrong).

set it to write to .CAF instead of .WAV and it will roll all night
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Re: Sennheiser AMBEO SMART HEADSET
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2019, 10:04:41 PM »
Unfortunately I learned (the hard way) that MetaRecorder doesn't start a new file after 2GB (or if it does, I have some setting wrong).

set it to write to .CAF instead of .WAV and it will roll all night

Sweet. You've answered quite a few of my questions lately. Thanks.
||| MICS:  Beyer CK930 ~ DPA 4080 ~ Nevaton MCE400 ~ Countryman B3 ~ Sennheiser Ambeo Headset |||
||| CABLES: Kind Kables |||
||| PREAMPS: Naiant Tinybox | Naiant Littlebox | Naiant IPA | Church BB |||
||| DECKS: Sound Devices MixPre6 | Sony M10 | iPod Touch 32GB |||
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