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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #345 on: March 07, 2019, 02:40:58 PM »
^ Very nice implementation, clean & simple.

Looking at the first photo posted above, it might be advantageous to slide the clamp left a touch.  That accomplishes two things- It centers the clamp's thumb-screw on the joint between the two antennas, where the threaded insert ends provide significant "hoop-strength" which keeps the tube from being crushed if you really crank down on the thumb-screw, and secondly centers the antenna-bar on a typical diameter stand upright, which is just a tweaky thing and of negligible acoustical significance.

The erasers are Moke's method of attaching small lav omnis.  He cuts a notch in the rubber wedge end to hold the mic cable.  Personally I never got that method to hold securely and just use a small square of gaffer tape.

Thanks for the input Gutbucket.  That makes sense and I'll give it a try! 

And yes, I was inspired by Moke's eraser idea.  The only difference is, since the Naiant's are a little bigger than DPA or Countryman lav omnis, I use Movo lapel clips clamped onto the erasers.   They provide something for the clip to bite into and not rotate on the round antenna.
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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #346 on: March 07, 2019, 03:47:35 PM »
I use Movo lapel clips clamped onto the erasers.   They provide something for the clip to bite into and not rotate on the round antenna.

That sounds like it would work well, with the sprung clip getting a good bite onto the rubber eraser.
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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #347 on: Yesterday at 07:25:00 PM »
Some panic OMT fun

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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #348 on: Yesterday at 10:23:15 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   rig pic
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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #349 on: Today at 10:44:04 AM »
Crazy lookin' animatronic octopus up there!

Thx. On the torrent..
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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #350 on: Today at 11:41:50 AM »
Crazy lookin' animatronic octopus up there!

Thx. On the torrent..
We were "blaming" you all weekend. "Damn that gutbucket, now we have all these channels and they DO sound great all combined"!
We did an OMT 6 on FRI night and an OMT8 on SAT night.  the OMT8 config:
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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #351 on: Today at 01:24:40 PM »
I'll be the scapegoat!

How are you guys liking the 4061s?  You realize that with them you now have no excuse not to push the omnis out further to 5'+ !  Doing that is especially fruitful when incorporating the multiple directional mics in the middle.  Everything breathes. Super phat booty bottom.  Damn it Gutbucket! 

Curious if you tried the C426 XY hyper in place of the center fwd ck3 in the mix this time.

I'll post some photos of my OMT8 rig strapped to a narrow outdoor patio column for Marcus King last weekend.  Moved it inside for George Porter Jr Trio and the all star family jam, which served as good test of the identical rig both inside and outside, at about the same distance from and orientation with the stage/PA, and with a similar sized crowd and "room".

Tentative comparison conclusion- As expected and discussed previously, I want the L/R supers pointed mostly sideways outdoors, but prefer to angle them 45-degrees forward toward the PA in a more reverberant indoor environment so I'll be thinking more about modifying the rig to make that easier without having to removing the big Shure windscreens to angle them forward. Conclusion is tentative as the only listening so far involved two pair of headphones, nudity, and a lovely listening partner on golden sun-lit Sunday afternoon - a very highly recommended configuration BTW, for which I'm fully willing to take the blame if you find such high fidelity enjoyable.

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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #352 on: Today at 01:33:06 PM »

Curious if you tried the C426 XY hyper in place of the center fwd ck3 in the mix this time.

That's why we ran both C426 XY hyper AND fwd|rear ck3 for SAT 3-23! Not only that, but in the mix, I tried eliminating one or the other of them and ultimately kept them both and used all eight channels in the final mix (adjusted for tone and taste of course)
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Re: Oddball microphone technique (OMT) - part 2
« Reply #353 on: Today at 03:50:35 PM »
Ha! 

Yep, you're hooked.
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