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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #120 on: April 28, 2018, 11:54:51 AM »
impressed!
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Thanks jerryfreak, for the field report. Happy as anyone, to hear of your positive results! Who knows, mebbe I got a lemon?! My Bluetooth connects perfectly fine with my MixPre-10T's Wingman app. Will remove/reload the Roland app, first. I did download it on a commuter train ride home (which shouldn't matter)...

Ah yes, zippering. Couldn't think of the technical term. I was among the early guinea pigs with the DR-60, and experienced same, which wasn't as much of an issue in play. My point was, this zippering was much more evident to me, when putting it through it's initial paces. I record on the louder side of the scale, so it may not be intrusive...

Still curious about how/if this can handle a line level signal, as I'd love to be able to control a board feed with it remotely, if/when my Bluetooth issue is resolved.

Back to the drawing board...
« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 03:23:51 PM by sos »
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #121 on: April 28, 2018, 12:33:55 PM »
^ Thanks. Android or iOS?

Same question for those who posted about bt woes...
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #122 on: April 28, 2018, 12:38:10 PM »
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #123 on: April 28, 2018, 03:15:05 PM »
Got some feedback from a Dutch taper who used it in the field, but found the mic in far too easy to overload with a 12V battery box or the Church Ugly pre. Only way he could get the R07 to work was with mics straight in (no pre or batt box) and the internal 3V PIP. If accurate, that would make it useless for me. A $230 paperweight.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #124 on: April 28, 2018, 03:19:19 PM »
impressed!

ran 4v>nbobs>tinybox>r07 it was flawless

How loud was this show?

I'm not familiar with your gear. Is the output level similar to Church CA-14 through a 12V battery box?

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #125 on: April 28, 2018, 04:30:53 PM »
medium bar loud. i was about 20 feet from the PA

id have to look up the gain settings on the tinybox, they are all custom

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #126 on: April 28, 2018, 04:33:37 PM »
ask him what the input level was set to

as you see from my recording above of the opening band with the 4V>tinybox, it was not overloading the input when i ran an input that was enough to give it FSD at an input level of 10. i thought for sure it would be brickwalling in that config but it came out alright 

Got some feedback from a Dutch taper who used it in the field, but found the mic in far too easy to overload with a 12V battery box or the Church Ugly pre. Only way he could get the R07 to work was with mics straight in (no pre or batt box) and the internal 3V PIP. If accurate, that would make it useless for me. A $230 paperweight.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #127 on: May 03, 2018, 08:50:11 AM »
impressed!
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Thanks jerryfreak, for the field report. Happy as anyone, to hear of your positive results! Who knows, mebbe I got a lemon?! My Bluetooth connects perfectly fine with my MixPre-10T's Wingman app. Will remove/reload the Roland app, first. I did download it on a commuter train ride home (which shouldn't matter)...

Ah yes, zippering. Couldn't think of the technical term. I was among the early guinea pigs with the DR-60, and experienced same, which wasn't as much of an issue in play. My point was, this zippering was much more evident to me, when putting it through it's initial paces. I record on the louder side of the scale, so it may not be intrusive...

Still curious about how/if this can handle a line level signal, as I'd love to be able to control a board feed with it remotely, if/when my Bluetooth issue is resolved.

Back to the drawing board...

Dear Customer, thanks for the information, the problem has been communicated to Roland and I am waiting for news.
The problem could be solved with a further firmware update.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #128 on: May 03, 2018, 10:59:01 PM »
The Dr-60d does not have the zipper issue currently fwiw
I can't recall how it was fixed but it was fixed so maybe this recorder can be fixed too
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2018, 01:44:48 PM »
Just got my R-07 in the mail!  I've lurked these forums for awhile, but just now got around to creating an account haha.  I use a Sony PCM-M10 with some Church mics for the most part.  I've also had several Tascam and Olympus recorders over the years.

Anyway, the first thing I tried was recording a track off my record player.  I split the signal and recorded at the same time.  44.1kHz/24-bit.  The band is AJJ.  Here's what I got:  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/832bukalgn9jmrn/AAC-ukodNOiQqlJl8ey64n9ia?dl=0

Only thing I did was trim and normalize.  :coolguy:

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2018, 06:10:58 PM »
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #131 on: May 05, 2018, 11:17:41 AM »
I’ve been doing some line-in soundboard stuff. Superb results.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #132 on: May 05, 2018, 01:10:36 PM »
What memory cards are folks using with success?
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #133 on: May 05, 2018, 02:00:40 PM »
I tried my R07 for the first time last night with great results. I was open taping The Ike Willis Project and Micki Free. The music ranged from Micki's LOUD Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Peter Green very (very) loud music, to Ike's pretty darn loud Zappa like music. Both artists had impressive sets. The deck handled it all without any issues. In fact I had forgotten I set the deck to record a second track at lower dB, and that track was very very low. I used AT 853>Naiant Pipsqueak>Roland R07.

Because as stated above I was open taping using the MixPre6 with 3 sets of mics, I made sure to move levels and play around. I controlled the deck mainly from my phone to get a feel for that. I changed levels quite a bit and had no zipper effect at all. Maybe this was due to the very loud volume, but nothing audible at all.

I had no trouble at all with the Bluetooth, but I believe that it is meant to be used a certain way. If you lock the deck (on the deck with the power button in lock position) which I did, the remote from the phone will still control the levels as well as record, stop, start and all. After doing whatever I need to do, I either close the app or move off the app to texting camera or whatever, so I do not accidentally hit stop or change levels. At this point the app releases the deck and I think that is a protective measure. If I want to check levels later or make changes later on, I press the app and a search button appears, I press that button, the deck appears, I press that and it instantly connects, I hit the go back arrow and have functionality once again. It all takes just a few seconds. In my usage last night I thought that was great for my intended use, because I can stuff the deck and Pipsqueak or my UGLY into my pocket locked and use my phone to make changes without any fear of shoving the phone in my pocket and screwing anything up. It felt to me as if this was thought through in the design to allow the best usage and protection with the remote control by phone. As for the Bluetooth setting on the deck, once you activate it within the menu, it remains on always, until you disable it. So you can power off the deck and the next time you turn it on, the Bluetooth light will light showing you that you can connect to your phone app at any time you choose. This could be a battery drain, but you could turn it off if you do not plan to use the remote. I had 2 rechargeable LADDA (Ikea) batteries in the deck, had it on and/or running from 7pm til just after midnight and showed nearly full battery after. Normally I use and external to be safe, and certainly if I shove it in a pocket that is an easy option, but It will not be necessary unless it is a  >:D marathon.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #134 on: May 05, 2018, 03:22:34 PM »
^Thanks for your testing and commentary on the R-07!

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