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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #375 on: November 05, 2018, 08:40:35 AM »
I bought the R-07 and recorded some loud rock shows directly with the R-07, so without external mics. I found that all my recordings were distorted, even when I put the input level at 5. Finally, I put the input on 1 and activated the limiter and then I got good results, although very bass heavy. Am I doing something wrong here?

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #376 on: November 05, 2018, 04:13:49 PM »
Perhaps you should use external mics, with a battery box or a pre-amp. 

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #377 on: November 05, 2018, 05:13:48 PM »
I bought the R-07 and recorded some loud rock shows directly with the R-07, so without external mics. I found that all my recordings were distorted, even when I put the input level at 5. Finally, I put the input on 1 and activated the limiter and then I got good results, although very bass heavy. Am I doing something wrong here?

The internal mics on the R-07 won't be capable of handling high SPLs.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #378 on: December 04, 2018, 01:46:47 PM »
just wanted to mention that i used my R-07 last night for the first time at a show with walkthrough metal detectors where people who set it off were pulled aside for wanding, and i didn't set it off at all when walking through, so no wanding. the R-07 must be mostly plastic.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #379 on: December 05, 2018, 10:28:44 AM »
hot licks > microphones > recorder



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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #380 on: December 05, 2018, 03:01:45 PM »
Looks like it's only the red one. Also only Prime. Not my preference but I may need to snag this. Still researching a bit. Will this pair well with most stealth 3.5" mics or is a preamp/battery box still needed for high SPL's? I'm new to a stealth rig. Looks like some popular battery boxes are no longer for sale. If I picked this up today, what do I need to kit it up for rock concerts etc? I'm thinking in the 3.5mm microphone category of course. Thanks for any tips.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #381 on: December 05, 2018, 03:31:38 PM »
Looks like it's only the red one. Also only Prime. Not my preference but I may need to snag this. Still researching a bit. Will this pair well with most stealth 3.5" mics or is a preamp/battery box still needed for high SPL's? I'm new to a stealth rig. Looks like some popular battery boxes are no longer for sale. If I picked this up today, what do I need to kit it up for rock concerts etc? I'm thinking in the 3.5mm microphone category of course. Thanks for any tips.

I believe recordings of loud rock shows have been successfully made with just the R-07 and 4.7k modded mics...it may have been discussed earlier in this thread.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #382 on: December 05, 2018, 08:26:31 PM »
I ended up buying a red one. Couldn't resist the sale price. Still need to find some stealth mics to go with it. Any suggestions?
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #383 on: December 05, 2018, 09:53:30 PM »
I ended up buying a red one. Couldn't resist the sale price. Still need to find some stealth mics to go with it. Any suggestions?

AT853 cards are pretty sweet.  I think you can get them from Sound Pros with the 4.7k mod, but don't quote me on that.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #384 on: December 06, 2018, 09:21:52 AM »

AT853 cards are pretty sweet.  I think you can get them from Sound Pros with the 4.7k mod, but don't quote me on that.

They are, and you can:

https://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-4U

$244 when you add the low-sensitivity option, which is the 4.7k mod.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #385 on: December 07, 2018, 07:49:25 PM »

AT853 cards are pretty sweet.  I think you can get them from Sound Pros with the 4.7k mod, but don't quote me on that.

They are, and you can:

https://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-4U

$244 when you add the low-sensitivity option, which is the 4.7k mod.

Thanks. The unit came in today! The 853’s look promising. I will have to research and find some samples. I would also like to use them for things like a comedy show. Where the SPL may not be as high as a rock show. I guess the safe bet is to kit up to be ready for 100+dB or whatever. I will have to delve into stealthing techniques. I don’t wear hats or glasses. I was kind of thinking about inside of a shirt collar. I assume the 853’s aren’t as small as some higher end discreet mics. Any comment on size for being low key? Wanting not an issue I assume as well. Will be interesting to finally tackle some of this.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #386 on: December 07, 2018, 08:04:33 PM »
1. Might be best to move this to PM's.
2. Schoeps caps of your choice  > active cables > preamp > R-07 ftw!
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #387 on: December 10, 2018, 08:34:22 AM »
I received my R-07. I brought it to a show. I was running full multitrack, a 4 track aud/sbd and popped this on the railing of FOH for shits an giggles. Set some arbitrary levels. I was completely expecting it to be distorted. It was a mild show but I didn't check db's at all. To my surprise the tracks were very listenable and contained plenty of content above 20khz. A surprising amount. The noise floor was low compared to other low end recorders. Not that I have much experience with them. There does appear to be some high frequency dither like noise added or at least picked up with this test. The stereo imaging was lacking in terms of overall width. Not too surprising. I do wish it didn't have three different red lights on it. Of course I also bought the red one with the recent $50 off sale. So it's not stealthy out in the open at all. Not having great luck with very quick iPhone X pairing but it connected to my car for playback which is kind of neat. The battery life seem fantastic too. This thing is pretty neat. I think I will actually get some use of it in cooperate video work for room tone and the like.
ISO: your recordings of The Slip, Surprise Me Mr. Davis and The Barr Brothers. pm me please.

 

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