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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2018, 09:34:00 AM »
Has anyone attempted to remove the rails yet?
I probably will.  If I do I'll certainly post here about it.
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2018, 10:13:26 AM »
Has anyone attempted to remove the rails yet?
I probably will.  If I do I'll certainly post here about it.

I've gone off the rails a few times
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2018, 03:13:59 PM »
I don't remember if it's been brought up yet, but I asked Zoom how much plug in power the F1 provides and was told it's 2.5V.
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2018, 01:43:00 AM »
Hi, I am plannig to get a new recorder. Until now it is the IRiver h120 and because here in Germany it is hard to get gear in, so I don´t use a Batterybox.
So my CA11/14 stuff is working with just connected to Line-In in Iriver and I am able to record moderately loud rock shows with it.
Will it be also possible with ZoomF1 and its provided mic power?

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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2018, 06:04:18 PM »
Has anyone attempted to remove the rails yet?
I probably will.  If I do I'll certainly post here about it.

I've gone off the rails a few times

Did u try? :)

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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2018, 10:14:54 AM »
At https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi5x5Go4eIY there is a very intelligent review of the H1N, which I strongly suspect is the generally the same as the F1 but in a different case.  In the review and in the comments, the reviewer claims that below a certain point the input level knob switches from analog to digital attenuation.  This he says could mean that with loud sources, the analog stage could overload before the digital stage.  I wonder whether any users of the F1 have noticed anything like that?  (I realise that the stepped input level of the F1 could make it hard to determine this - analysis of noise at different input settings can sometimes reveal what is going on).

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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2018, 04:54:16 AM »
Hi, I am plannig to get a new recorder. Until now it is the IRiver h120 and because here in Germany it is hard to get gear in, so I don´t use a Batterybox.
So my CA11/14 stuff is working with just connected to Line-In in Iriver and I am able to record moderately loud rock shows with it.
Will it be also possible with ZoomF1 and its provided mic power?


AFAIR you can use the Church Audio Mics with plugin Power, but their High SPL capability is just guaranted with the battery box / preamp.

Stumbled across the device today sorry for waking up that thread but with tiny battery box from church or sound profesionals this is the ideal  >:D device. It just looks like "this is my new casio g shock watch, nothin special"   ;D
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2018, 04:56:56 AM »
because here in Germany it is hard to get gear in

You must be doing something wrong.
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2018, 05:01:15 AM »
indeed. even with the pcm-m10 i always handled this as a "cell phone" :D

but i will take na look at this one here. came across this today watching "Techmoan" on youtube and this was in the recommendations  :lol:
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2018, 10:04:56 AM »
Hey guys! I'm (for the first time ever) wanting to put together a stealthy rig. Cost effective as I'm not buying much gear these days. I had actually picked up the competing Tascam DR-10L for use in video work but it only records dual mono (safety gain). I later learned this Zoom unit can do stereo. Which got me thinking that perhaps it's a good stealth recorder. Reading through this looks promising. Now that it's been a while what were you all's findings? Battery box necessary for something like Church mics? In terms of rock concert volumes? I have some shows coming up in April that I am in the sweet spot for and can't open record. I also go to a fair amount of comedy shows and use my iPhone. Which is pretty good but mono. Any real world reviews of this for concert recording?
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2018, 12:19:27 PM »
Hey guys! I'm (for the first time ever) wanting to put together a stealthy rig. Cost effective as I'm not buying much gear these days. I had actually picked up the competing Tascam DR-10L for use in video work but it only records dual mono (safety gain). I later learned this Zoom unit can do stereo. Which got me thinking that perhaps it's a good stealth recorder. Reading through this looks promising. Now that it's been a while what were you all's findings? Battery box necessary for something like Church mics? In terms of rock concert volumes? I have some shows coming up in April that I am in the sweet spot for and can't open record. I also go to a fair amount of comedy shows and use my iPhone. Which is pretty good but mono. Any real world reviews of this for concert recording?
On the plus side, it is small, easy to conceal and the pre-amps are good. I really like the recordings I get. As for a battery box, the F1 certainly does not supply any more PIP than a larger deck and while I do not know the voltage, I always use a small external pre-amp, so at the least I'd say yes to a battery box. Like all small decks you may (or may not) get away with skipping it, but to me the sound quality of the recording is noticeably worse.
My one peeve and this is a reason I favor the Roland R-07 and Marantz PMD 620, is the gain control. Gain is in fixed increments and can only be adjusted up. So, if you have it set too high at the start of a show, the only recourse is to go higher and higher until it goes lower. That means, depending on how fast you can press the gain button, some distortion then a bit of total silence then the gain you desire. So, a few seconds that take will require a bit of post work, adjusting of volumes and all to get to sound ok.
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Re: Zoom F1 recorder
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2018, 01:35:09 PM »
Thanks. I don't think I've ever seen that Roland R-07. That looks pretty interesting. Time to dive into research! The gain issue is definitely unappealing. Good tip!
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