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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #360 on: December 06, 2018, 07:55:22 PM »
I may have missed something in the manual, but how do you skip to the next file in playback? I have tried just about everything i can think of to no avail.

Yeah, not super intuitive. If the file is in the same project, tap on the current file name on the home screen to get a listing of project files, then use headphone attenuator to select.
To go to another project, you have to go to the system menu, select project, then open.

This was almost it...you have to stop playback and hold in the headphone pot. Then you can go forward and backwards. Do the same thing during playback to seek forward and backwards during tracks.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #361 on: December 07, 2018, 01:27:31 PM »
During playback or pause you can also skip files and q-marks by holding play button then rotating HP encoder

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #362 on: December 07, 2018, 01:46:12 PM »
During playback or pause you can also skip files and q-marks by holding play button then rotating HP encoder

Thanks Paul.

Would you be willing to comment on the analog/ digital  gain staging we’ve been speculating about?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #363 on: December 10, 2018, 12:05:52 AM »
Paul - would it be possible to set the headphone pot to control channels 5-6 (linked) gain when depressed during recording? This could be very useful.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #364 on: December 10, 2018, 12:03:23 PM »
Firmware version 3.00 out now per email.

https://www.sounddevices.com/support/downloads/mixpres-firmware/?device=10t

Last update 11/26/2018

Changes introduced in 3.00 include:

New

For all models:

USB control from the Korg NanoKontrol Studio, Korg NanoKontrol2, Akai MidiMix, and Novation Launch Control XL USB control surfaces. Other USB control surfaces are not supported. Includes support for fader, trim, pan, low cut, reverb, solo, mute, track arm, monitor, transport control, LR output level, and user-programmable shortcut buttons.
Note: available features depend on the control surface being used and whether Audio or Music projects are enabled. For more information, see the USB Controller chapter in your MixPre User Guide.

For MixPre-3, -6, and -10T only:

Pre-roll: saves up to 10 seconds of audio before the “record” button is pressed. Select up to 10 seconds of pre-roll on the MixPre-10T and 5 seconds of pre-roll on the MixPre-3 & -6. Pre-roll time is reduced at 96 kHz and higher sampling rates.

For MixPre-3 and 3M only:

Phase invert option now available for the MixPre-3. Phase invert is already available for all other MixPre models.

For MixPre-6 and -10T only:

Ambisonics and binaural recording/monitoring (-6 and -10T Audio projects only). Requires installation of the free Ambisonics Plugin available at the Sound Devices Plugin Store. See [Ambisonics user guide link]

For all M models and Music projects on models with Musician Plugin:

Bluetooth LE wireless remote control using the Android or iOS Wingman app. Includes 12-track monitoring, mix metering, transport control, time counter, track naming and arming.
Support for the new Windows ASIO driver, v2.9.92.1. This enables a MixPre running a Music project to be used as a multichannel USB audio interface with Windows computers. This ASIO driver is required when using the MixPre-3M, -6M, or -10M or when running Music projects in the MixPre-3, -6, or -10T.
Changed

For all models:

Meter scale now included on Channel screen meter.
Fixed

For all models:

Noise that occurred when playing back MixPre-recorded 96 kHz or 192 kHz files at a fraction of their normal speed has been eliminated.
The UI no longer occasionally switches to a Channel screen’s first page after selecting a linking option.
Fader or gain levels now only display at the top of the Home screen when being adjusted.
Improved handling of projects without an SD card connected.
Rare event where USB audio inputs 3 and 4 were routed directly to the LR tracks has been resolved.
Files with both Mix and ISO tracks now consistently import correctly.
Imported files now consistently playback at correct speed.
Ticking noises that occasionally occurred when playing back imported files containing cue markers have been removed.
Sample rate stays consistent between the MixPre and a computer when changing projects without an SD card inserted.
LR gain now remains correct after loading a preset with L and R unlinked and set to different gain values.
When transitioning between playback and stop, solo’d track remains consistent.
All channels of a linked group can be solo’d in the headphone output.
Improved USB-A port connectivity.

For MixPre-3, -6, and -10T only:

Playback meters now display in Audio projects when meters are set to Off.
Custom Mode with Gain set to Basic and Headphones set to Advanced now allows deselecting of all sources in the Headphone Preset matrix.
Live audio now returns consistently after playback when device is connected via USB to a computer.

For all M models and Music projects on models with Musician Plugin:

The maximum number of cue markers in Music projects has been increased to 99.
All tracks are now present after importing non-native files into Music projects.
Imported non-native content does not disappear after overdubbing.
A lockup no longer occurs if the HP encoder is pressed when viewing an empty History list.

For MixPre-3 and -6 models only:

A lockup that occasionally occurred when switching from a battery source to a low USB power source has been resolved.

For MixPre-6 and -10T models only:

Linking settings remain correct when switching between Music and Audio projects.
Live audio for channels 9 & 10 (on MixPre-10T) and channels 5 & 6 (on MixPre-6) return after playback.

For MixPre-10T only:

Timecode generator reset warning no longer appears when booting up in Music projects.
Record Trigger setting is now stored across power cycles.

For MixPre-10T and -10M only:

In Stop mode, navigation no longer skips between cue marks (on MixPre-10M or in Music projects on the MixPre-10T).
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #365 on: December 10, 2018, 12:17:06 PM »
Many excellent things in this release.

What I don't understand is why no 12 channel midi control surfaces have been included, given that's the number of tracks which need control. Maybe there are none.......

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #366 on: December 10, 2018, 12:42:32 PM »
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Pre-roll: saves up to 10 seconds of audio before the “record” button is pressed. Select up to 10 seconds of pre-roll on the MixPre-10T and 5 seconds of pre-roll on the MixPre-3 & -6. Pre-roll time is reduced at 96 kHz and higher sampling rates.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #367 on: December 10, 2018, 03:25:31 PM »
Good news on pre-roll.

Is there a hold function yet?  I’ve been out of the loop.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #368 on: December 10, 2018, 03:41:29 PM »
Good news on pre-roll.

Is there a hold function yet?  I’ve been out of the loop.

Not to my knowledge
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #369 on: December 10, 2018, 03:47:47 PM »
I realize the new firmware is only hours old at this point, but...

Does anyone have experience with any of the compatible MIDI control surfaces... nanoKontrol, etc.?

I'd like to know how effective / reliable they are and whether they're a worthwhile investment... (acknowledging the latter is subjective.)


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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #370 on: December 10, 2018, 04:12:52 PM »
pretty disappointed with this release. at least they fixed the headphone preset bug where you were unable to deselect some choices in custom mode, but that was easily worked around by switching out of custom mode. i reported another bug to them two months ago which is that if you create a headphone preset with channels 5 and 6 you can only listen to it while its being recorded live. after the fact, playback of this headphone preset was simply silence, which is very annoying to me as this preset is often the one i want to listen to right after the show. Danny Greenwald responded to my inquiry acknowledging the bug and indicated it would be fixed by 3.00, but it is not. it's still there. (actually, now, playing back channels 5 and 6 plays back static rather than complete silence, so something in the firmware has changed, but the bug has not been fixed.)

also, still no hold/lock feature, either in terms of locking levels in place or locking the recording from being stopped. it's a head-scratcher that a year and a half after release we cannot get this implemented in the firmware somehow (obviously too late for a physical hold button), given that every other recorder on the market has had this feature standard going back more than a decade.

additionally, no noteworthy abilities added to the wingman app. was really hoping for the ability to adjust levels from the wingman app. this is a standard feature in the roland r-07's app, so i'm not sure why it's so hard to implement with the mixpre. also was hoping for the ability to view current gain settings for each channel via wingman (i.e. channels 1 and 2 currently set to 20db, channels 3 and 4 currently set to 30db, etc. with this info displayed under each channel in wingman). currently the only way to obtain this information is to turn the knob, which then briefly displays the gain setting on screen but also changes it -- i don't want to change it, i just want to know what it is. also there has got to be an easier way to adjust the gain setting for channels 5 and 6, which currently requires going into a submenu screen and tapping tiny little onscreen up and down arrows.

i made all of these suggestions to SD a month ago and received a generic form response from Danny Greenwald, which is all we can do.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #371 on: December 10, 2018, 04:30:37 PM »
I'll wait until 3.01.


I don't generally go for .00 updates.


Still hoping they can correct the term PHASE INVERT and change it to POLARITY INVERT but I have no rational belief that they care about such crap as labels.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #372 on: December 11, 2018, 07:56:28 AM »
But PHASE is so much more sexy-sounding than POLARITY, to hell with being real.... >:D ::)
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #373 on: December 11, 2018, 08:48:37 AM »
also there has got to be an easier way to adjust the gain setting for channels 5 and 6, which currently requires going into a submenu screen and tapping tiny little onscreen up and down arrows.

You know you can use the headphone knob to adjust levels on 5&6 when at that menu, right?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #374 on: December 11, 2018, 09:35:35 AM »
Just out of curiosity, would I have to use any kind of inline attenuators using akg481s into a mixpre3?

I use them currently going into a shure fp24. Hoping I can do away with them with the deck upgrade?!

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