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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2018, 11:05:33 AM »
Why spend lots of money and time effort etc and not keep the raw or purest possible source!  :shrug: keep em  as your post production skills improve or you get better speakers ,monitors etc you will be happy you can work from the original source.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2018, 11:51:08 AM »
Why spend lots of money and time effort etc and not keep the raw or purest possible source!  :shrug: keep em  as your post production skills improve or you get better speakers ,monitors etc you will be happy you can work from the original source.

I don't think the question is whether to keep the masters, but rather in WAV or FLAC format. A FLAC file converted back to WAV *is* the original source, so I'm not sure what you mean by "the raw or purest possible source." Are you implying that a FLAC of the original WAV file is somehow less pure than the WAV?
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2018, 02:10:53 PM »
Why spend lots of money and time effort etc and not keep the raw or purest possible source!  :shrug: keep em  as your post production skills improve or you get better speakers ,monitors etc you will be happy you can work from the original source.
I don't think anyone is proposing the disposal of master recordings. FLAC does recreate the original WAV perfectly, and has additional features like metadata and the fingerprint. But it takes time and processor power to encode & decode in order to get the space savings.

As long as the FLAC encoding is done properly, the audio is not at risk, but it's an additional step that I don't feel is worthwhile for my purposes. In lieu of FLAC metadata, I leave the recordings in folders labeled by which recorder, inside dated folders, a year at a time.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2018, 10:42:03 AM »
Raw master FLACs can be tagged with venue, source info, etc.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2018, 03:49:45 PM »
My reasoning ,no matter how perfect it  is  (flac) I’d prefer the wav vs flac. Flac is compression ,and things *can go wrong*  would you rather have a dat master Or a dat clone? They are identical but most people would choose the master I think. Not trying to argue science or facts ,just my preferences. If storage isn’t a issue I’ll skip the time and processor work every time.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2018, 04:20:01 PM »
This is why I have started making MD5 checksums on the original files on the SD cards. If a FLAC operation could go wrong, so could a file transfer (copy).

You know, those files on your hard drive are COPIES of the masters, unless you are saving the SD cards or something!?

To be truly paranoid, I would want to run the checksum operation twice on the original to be sure that THOSE are the same.

My reasoning ,no matter how perfect it  is  (flac) I’d prefer the wav vs flac. Flac is compression ,and things *can go wrong*  would you rather have a dat master Or a dat clone? They are identical but most people would choose the master I think.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2018, 04:33:21 PM »
I use Teracopy which will verify the files after they are copied.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2018, 05:16:25 PM »
I use Teracopy which will verify the files after they are copied.
Cool idea.

I'm on the mac so I should probably just pay for Carbon Copy Cloner, and turn on verification when I'm moving masters, or just go commando-line!?

But my MD5 thing works with what I have, and you can verify any time against it.
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Re: Is there any reason to keep masters as WAV files?
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2018, 08:47:59 PM »
I use Teracopy which will verify the files after they are copied.

I have used Teracopy for years but find that Windows 10 does not always play nice with it.  I think that I used Robocopy before that but Teracopy is nice with the file verification step.
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