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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2018, 08:19:38 AM »
Samples of C568EB shotguns, run in stereo, vents pointed out.  Discuss.

Radio City Music Hall (theater)
https://archive.org/details/bobandphilduo2018-03-03.r1.spyder9.flac16


BB&T Center (auditorium)
https://archive.org/details/deadandco2018-02-26.r1.spyder9.flac16
Yep,   Sometimes shot gun point at stacks is a nice way to go.  Simple and gets the job done.

Exactly. Simple, easy to use and usually works out just fine. So back on topic. I guess it’s best to point the threads to the sides or up. Going to try up next time as Pohahu suggests. I’m always looking for variations especially with stuff you’re not supposed to use. :facepalm:

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2018, 06:01:43 PM »
All that matters to anyone else is that the recording sounds good.
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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2018, 10:35:35 PM »
Samples of C568EB shotguns, run in stereo, vents pointed out.  Discuss.

Radio City Music Hall (theater)
https://archive.org/details/bobandphilduo2018-03-03.r1.spyder9.flac16


BB&T Center (auditorium)
https://archive.org/details/deadandco2018-02-26.r1.spyder9.flac16
Yep,   Sometimes shot gun point at stacks is a nice way to go.  Simple and gets the job done.

Exactly. Simple, easy to use and usually works out just fine. So back on topic. I guess it’s best to point the threads to the sides or up. Going to try up next time as Pohahu suggests. I’m always looking for variations especially with stuff you’re not supposed to use. :facepalm:

Why not split the difference and point the vents @ 45*?

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2018, 10:52:05 PM »
The vent position makes little to no difference, especially when used to record music in the typical "taper" application.

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2018, 03:48:10 PM »
The vent position makes little to no difference, especially when used to record music in the typical "taper" application.

I agree with that statement with mics like the Naks that have venting all the way around. The 568’s are only half vented and vent position definitely makes a difference.

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2018, 05:08:19 PM »
The vent position makes little to no difference, especially when used to record music in the typical "taper" application.

I agree with that statement with mics like the Naks that have venting all the way around. The 568’s are only half vented and vent position definitely makes a difference.

No it does not. Proximity has no effect on frequency cancellation inside the interference tube.

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AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2018, 05:20:32 PM »
Thanks for the topic and link. I have been running a pair of C568EB's with the vents up. The venues are small and usually run them with either BSC1 or MBHO440 and mix them together. Glad I'm still sort of a newbie at this recording thing.  I like to experiment and go against the grain sometimes. I  will see about vents sideways at at larger venue.

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2018, 05:41:37 PM »
Thanks for the topic and link. I have been running a pair of C568EB's with the vents up. The venues are small and usually run them with either BSC1 or MBHO440 and mix them together. Glad I'm still sort of a newbie at this recording thing.  I like to experiment and go against the grain sometimes. I  will see about vents sideways at at larger venue.

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You could do that but the only way you could prove that vent position matters in a given setting would be to have  at least 2 mics in very close proximity to each other and the vents facing in different directions.  In the scenario you suggest, it sounds as though you would have the vents facing in opposite directions...180 deg. from each other, but at a slight distance from each other.  Depending on room acoustics and your location within that space, you would not hear much difference between the 2, at least not any more than any other stereo pair of microphones (other than the pickup pattern)

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2018, 06:17:59 PM »
Thanks for the topic and link. I have been running a pair of C568EB's with the vents up. The venues are small and usually run them with either BSC1 or MBHO440 and mix them together. Glad I'm still sort of a newbie at this recording thing.  I like to experiment and go against the grain sometimes. I  will see about vents sideways at at larger venue.

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You could do that but the only way you could prove that vent position matters in a given setting would be to have  at least 2 mics in very close proximity to each other and the vents facing in different directions.  In the scenario you suggest, it sounds as though you would have the vents facing in opposite directions...180 deg. from each other, but at a slight distance from each other.  Depending on room acoustics and your location within that space, you would not hear much difference between the 2, at least not any more than any other stereo pair of microphones (other than the pickup pattern)

 "I  will see about vents sideways at at larger venue": I was thinking about JRAD at the Wiltern and Phish at MGM Grand Garden. Definitley larger venues
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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2018, 08:03:07 PM »
The vent position makes little to no difference, especially when used to record music in the typical "taper" application.

I agree with that statement with mics like the Naks that have venting all the way around. The 568’s are only half vented and vent position definitely makes a difference.

No it does not. Proximity has no effect on frequency cancellation inside the interference tube.

Ok.

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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2018, 01:23:52 AM »
I always run mu ck8s or ck69s with vents up sounds killer every time
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Re: AKG 568 vent position.
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2018, 09:43:38 AM »
Samples of C568EB shotguns, run in stereo, vents pointed out.  Discuss.

Radio City Music Hall (theater)
https://archive.org/details/bobandphilduo2018-03-03.r1.spyder9.flac16


BB&T Center (auditorium)
https://archive.org/details/deadandco2018-02-26.r1.spyder9.flac16
Yep,   Sometimes shot gun point at stacks is a nice way to go.  Simple and gets the job done.

Exactly. Simple, easy to use and usually works out just fine. So back on topic. I guess it’s best to point the threads to the sides or up. Going to try up next time as Pohahu suggests. I’m always looking for variations especially with stuff you’re not supposed to use. :facepalm:

Why not split the difference and point the vents @ 45*?

Now that’s something worth trying. A little bit of both. Not straight up and not to the sides.

 

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