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Hello,

I'm a rookie at remastering and I'm currently working on a blues/rock show I've just taped in a 1000 capacity venue. It's an audience st€@1t# recording.
Source is: 2x DPA 4061's (binaural recording) > SP battery box w/NO bass roll-off > Tascam DR-2d.

Here's what has been processed so far:
(*) see joined PNGs

> Declicker on selected spots (to remove applause)
> Normalisation -5dB
> Bass roll-off and mid boost EQ with T-RackS EQ PG*:
    -4.0dB @31Hz
    -1.0dB @63Hz
    +3.2dB @4kHz
> Gentle compression with T-RackS Classic Compressor*:
    Stereo enhancement: 0.8dB
> Declicker on selected spots (again)
> Normalisation 0dB

You'll find samples of both the original (untouched) recording and the remastered bit here : http://cmlien.free.fr/rs/original.mp3 and http://cmlien.free.fr/rs/remastered.mp3.
Please note: downloading the files might give you better sound quality than direct streaming from the server.

I don't have a proper equipment to process audio files. I work with a Sony laptop and a Sennheiser Momentum headset (that fully covers ears).
Just let me know what you think about the remastered sample. Does it still sound natural? Is it over-processed? Can it still be improved? What would you do to improve it?

Thanks !
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« Last Edit: June 30, 2018, 12:26:10 PM by fandelive »
Mics : Sony ECM-717, MM-HLSC-1 (4.7k mod), SP-CMC-4 (at853), 2x DPA4060, 2x DPA4061
Battery box : SP-SPSB-6524 w/bass roll-off filter, MM-CBM-1
Preamp : Church Audio CA-9100
Recorders : Sony MZR-700PC, Edirol R-09HR, Tascam DR-2d

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I'd sure given em a listen, but for some reason, the mega link redirects to MY mega account.....not sure why, but no can do for a review. I use pretty much the same gear, so would sure like to listen and think about my processing (which is very damn minimal, usually)

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Sorry, I replaced the links in the first post.
http://cmlien.free.fr/rs/original.mp3 and http://cmlien.free.fr/rs/remastered.mp3.
Mics : Sony ECM-717, MM-HLSC-1 (4.7k mod), SP-CMC-4 (at853), 2x DPA4060, 2x DPA4061
Battery box : SP-SPSB-6524 w/bass roll-off filter, MM-CBM-1
Preamp : Church Audio CA-9100
Recorders : Sony MZR-700PC, Edirol R-09HR, Tascam DR-2d

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I gave the remastered file a playback using VLC today and found it to sound a bit too bright on the mids. So here's what I did:
-0.4dB @1kHz
-0.4dB @3kHz
-0.4dB @6kHz

I think now it sounds more natural. http://cmlien.free.fr/rs/remastered-v2.mp3
« Last Edit: July 04, 2018, 02:19:37 AM by fandelive »
Mics : Sony ECM-717, MM-HLSC-1 (4.7k mod), SP-CMC-4 (at853), 2x DPA4060, 2x DPA4061
Battery box : SP-SPSB-6524 w/bass roll-off filter, MM-CBM-1
Preamp : Church Audio CA-9100
Recorders : Sony MZR-700PC, Edirol R-09HR, Tascam DR-2d

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Well, the crowd got louder on the remaster.

I'd suggest hard limiting over compression. Compression leaves "breathing" artifacts if the ratio & release time are not set just right. Hard limiting happens more quickly and mostly smashes peaks if you set it right.
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Hard limiting happens more quickly and mostly smashes peaks if you set it right.

Does that mean I won't even have to use declicker prior to hard limiting ?
Mics : Sony ECM-717, MM-HLSC-1 (4.7k mod), SP-CMC-4 (at853), 2x DPA4060, 2x DPA4061
Battery box : SP-SPSB-6524 w/bass roll-off filter, MM-CBM-1
Preamp : Church Audio CA-9100
Recorders : Sony MZR-700PC, Edirol R-09HR, Tascam DR-2d

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Hard limiting happens more quickly and mostly smashes peaks if you set it right.

Does that mean I won't even have to use declicker prior to hard limiting ?
I've never used one so I guess I don't know!?
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I find the redone one harsh on the high end.

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I find the redone one harsh on the high end.

Yes it was. Tried to eliminate that in a v2: http://cmlien.free.fr/rs/remastered-v2.mp3
Mics : Sony ECM-717, MM-HLSC-1 (4.7k mod), SP-CMC-4 (at853), 2x DPA4060, 2x DPA4061
Battery box : SP-SPSB-6524 w/bass roll-off filter, MM-CBM-1
Preamp : Church Audio CA-9100
Recorders : Sony MZR-700PC, Edirol R-09HR, Tascam DR-2d

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will run your OG source thru my EQ when I get home to Alaska tomorrrow (in Indiana right now)....it will tell me visually where your peaks and valleys are.
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