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New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« on: July 02, 2018, 04:27:21 AM »
From official Facebook page:

"Developing a new mic it will be a full sized balanced mic. A larger version of the ca14 but with a much larger capsule. And removable windscreen. The eta for this mic is about 6 months. I will let you know how it is progressing when I get started. I have the capsules I want to use ( that’s half the battle )"

From comments:
"It will be a 1 inch capsule. That is cardioid. Much like the ca14 capsule except much larger and flatter frequency response."
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 11:04:38 AM »
Looking forward to it, big fan of Chris's products.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2018, 11:16:15 AM »
Has he said anything about what the form factor of this will be?
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2018, 11:52:47 AM »
I haven't found any other information in Church Audio Facebook official page.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2018, 12:24:11 PM »
The eta for this mic is about 6 months.

I wonder what the odds are for the over/under...

One inch (25.4 mm) is pretty big, if they will be end-addressed.  By contrast, DPA caps are 19 mm and Schoeps are 20 mm.

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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2018, 07:06:35 PM »
These probably won't be as stealthy as the CA-14's, but I'm definitely interested in checking them out.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 03:58:18 AM »
Unfurtunately There are Not that
Much information what to expected
But i believe they will perform
w/9 Volt or 12 Volt.
Size Sounds still stealthable for me
so i am also interested.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2018, 09:15:58 PM »
aaronji, I think you're confusing the diameter of the complete "capsule head" with that of the (internal) capsule itself. Both dimensions affect a microphone's behavior in a sound field, but the capsule itself has a smaller diameter; in a Schoeps mike it's about half an inch, depending on exactly what/how you measure.

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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2018, 02:26:36 PM »
^ No, I am not confusing them.  I am saying that an end addressed (presumably cylindrical) mic with a one inch capsule will be considerably bigger than the 19 mm offerings from DPA (or 20 mm from Schoeps).  At a bare minimum, a third larger in diameter, but, realistically, considerably more than that.  For a cap (part that screws onto the body) to capsule (internal) ratio similar to the Schoeps (20 mm/12.7 mm), it would be about a 40 mm diameter mic... 

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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2018, 04:01:12 PM »
It would be unlikely that the mic would be end address at a 1' dia. It would more likely be side address. (Or vertical, as some would say)    :hmmm:

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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2018, 06:10:51 PM »
FWIW, the Audio-Technica AE5100 is an end address large diaphragm condenser.  I don't know the actual size of the diaphragm though.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2018, 08:30:16 PM »
It would be unlikely that the mic would be end address at a 1' dia. It would more likely be side address. (Or vertical, as some would say)    :hmmm:

Yes, I have been thinking about that, too.  For a cylindrical side/vertical address (like an MK4V) it would (obviously) still need a diameter of a similar size as an end address.  For something non-cylindrical, the housing would have to be greater than an inch on two axes to accommodate the capsule (assuming it is round), but maybe there is some leeway on the third axis (assuming the depth is less than an inch).  Pretty curious what Mr. Church has in mind here...

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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2018, 02:05:45 PM »
Might be in the market for some new mics later this tear....wondering how these are coming along
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2018, 04:09:07 PM »
Might be in the market for some new mics later this tear....wondering how these are coming along

I'm not going to dig up the posts but he has mentioned working on new, larger mics before. Like years ago.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2018, 08:53:06 AM »
Yeah, this is old news

Might be in the market for some new mics later this tear....wondering how these are coming along

I'm not going to dig up the posts but he has mentioned working on new, larger mics before. Like years ago.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2018, 06:03:49 PM »
I don't know why anyone greets any product announcement from Church Audio with any kind of anticipation.

He will take your money, and you likely won't receive your products anywhere close to the promised delivery date, if ever.

I am tired of seeing new people get burned who don't know what's up, so I won't mince words.  Shop elsewhere for recording equipment.
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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2018, 08:38:12 PM »
I don't know why anyone greets any product announcement from Church Audio with any kind of anticipation.

He will take your money, and you likely won't receive your products anywhere close to the promised delivery date, if ever.

I am tired of seeing new people get burned who don't know what's up, so I won't mince words.  Shop elsewhere for recording equipment.

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Re: New Church Audio large capsule mic announced
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2018, 10:25:20 PM »
I am going to chime in here as a previous (but not future) customer and defender of Church Audio.

What voltronic says above is certainly true.

I have been on the “How long did it take to get your Church Audio stuff?” thread a few times relating my real world experience with him — basically defending him from a chorus of detractors. I recently ordered a $99 CA11 backup on his Facebook promotion “Send me on vacation” where he took orders and made 12 mics so he could afford a $1200 vacation. Nothing apparently focuses the mind like a vacation. He got me my mic quickly, in about two weeks.

Why did I need a backup? Because of something people rarely talk about. His products in my experience have been more fragile than a shy teenager in a beauty pageant. I have to truly baby the equipment to get more than a year out of it. Most of his mics and half his preamps I have owned have wound up with only one channel working. Anyone who has purchase a $5 set of earbuds on Amazon will be familiar with “one loose wire syndrome.”

Finally, a few months ago I was looking into possibly getting my Nak 300s chopped up for stealth and to run off a 9v battery box or a CA9200. The very kind person ready to do the mod asked me about whether I wanted or needed a “4.7k mod” — I remembered something about there being CA preamps with either a 4.7k built-in or set up so they could accept a 4.7k-modded mic. Could that mean that some of his other preamps might *not* be compatible such a mic? Hmm.

I sent him a quick FB Message while waiting for my CA11 above. He flat out refused to even answer my questions. He told me he didn’t support other people’s products (and added a “lol” at the end - he does that a lot). I informed him it was HIS preamp I was asking about and by the way I had an order in for his vacation sale. He never ended up answering the basic question about was there anything I needed to know about the 4.7k mod and using the CA9200. He told me it was “his” mod and people were ripping him off by doing it. “Lol” — He told me most people who offer the mod in fact do it incorrectly. “Lol.” — He went on to tell me that Nak 300s weren’t any good. “Lol.” — And so on. A lot of FB messages and a lot of my time wasted and in the end I never got an answer about his freaking preamp. I felt like saying “Fuck you lol” but didn’t want to bother. Eventually a nice user of TS gave me the answer.

So it’s not just that he takes money from people and doesn’t send them their mics for a year or more. That sort of thing can and should be taken up with PayPal or one’s credit card company.

It’s that he can be a gratuitously unpleasant person to someone using his products. For me, that is everything. Everything I need to know about someone.

I have moved on from his products and won’t be buying any more. He makes decent starter microphones that have a high level of comparability within each model. That is not enough for me anymore. I can get much higher build quality from the ocean of used AT gear for sale on TS and far far higher quality from DPA. If he builds a SDC I doubt it will be up to the level of what Line Audio sells. IF he ships any.

Sorry to rant there. You can go back to talking about his new products now.
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