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Offline Jerseyguy57

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Church CA-11
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:03:03 PM »
Anybody use the CA-11's? What's your expierence.

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2018, 02:07:54 PM »
Is that a microphone?
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2018, 02:13:55 PM »
Is that a microphone?

You have it in the gear in your sig line  :facepalm:
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2018, 02:19:10 PM »
Yes, its a microphone I'm considering.

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2018, 02:21:00 PM »
Anybody use the CA-11's? What's your expierence.

I did. My first stealth mic.

It's a great mic. Hard to beat at that pricepoint.
I also like the switchable caps. The ca-11 omnis sound nice as well.

mics: nakamichi cm-50 | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | primo em4052pmi4 | sp-cmc-4u/at-u853a 4.7k mod (h/c/sc) | ca-11 (c)
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2018, 02:36:19 PM »
Not a fan of the CA-11's, but the CA-14's are a wonderful stealth mic and I recommend the cardioids often for stealth recording.  I understand that Chris is coming out with something new, but they are expected to be slightly larger than the 14's.
Normal: Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD 744T (or) Sony PCM-M10
Normal: Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD 744T
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2018, 02:42:35 PM »
I was just kidding. It was my good-natured way of saying that I can find threads on TS going back 10 years about the Ca-11. I would think it’s pretty much the same mic now, although only Chris knows the details...

Very neutral sounding compared to the Ca-14 — in fact the first time I used an 11 after a few years of recording with the 14, I was very disappointing at what I felt was a lackluster sound. However, after listening to it a few times, I realized that it wasn’t lackluster, it just was truer to the actual sound in the environment I was taping. The 14’s have a fuller, warmer sound (especially the Omni) but if you’re looking for a cleaner, leaner, more accurate (these are all subjective of course) recording and you’re going to EQ in post anyway, the CA11 is a great microphone, especially for the price on yard sale section or the occasional sale by Chris.

Compared to the CA14, it has capsules so you can change from Omni to cardioid. It used to come standard with an attached clip, but to my knowledge it no longer does (although Chris will make it for you that way if you ask). He supplies an external “slip-on” clip for each mic.

Definitely check out the thread in the Retail Space regarding build times if you want a spectrum of people’s retail experience with Chris.

The cables are very thin and the mic should be treated with more care than I like to. I have had a few pairs which have lost a channel — but I bet this is probably easily repaired.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2018, 02:45:22 PM by relefunt »
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Beyerdynamic MC930, Line Audio CM3 and OM1.
Church CA11+14, Audiotechnica AT853.
Shure FP24, Audioroot Femto, Church CA9100, CA9200.
Sound Devices MixPre6, Roland R44 and R05, Tascam DR70D, Sony M10.
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 02:28:03 AM »
Jersey guy, there are countless threads and comments on TS about these mics, plus almost every day there is a recording using them uploaded to either the Live Music Archive or a torrent site such as Traders Den or Dimeadozen.

Chris is having a sale at the moment; I believe it is two pairs of mics (CA11s, CA14s, or one of each) plus an “ugly” preamp (or the 9200 preamp), for $249 — which is good deal:

https://m.facebook.com/churchaudiomics/posts/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0

Take care and good luck with recording!
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 02:55:20 AM »
I adore my CA-14s. here's the first recording I captured with them clipped to my shoulders- and here's a matrix I captured by utilizing the 4channel recording of a zoom h4n pro and getting a feed from the mixer via XLRs and the CA-14s via the mic in. The CA-14s are actually higher in the mix, here. Crazy bang for your buck & highly portable. Great entry level mics- wish I would have picked them up a year ago.

I had a similar experience to a poster above- I picked up some CA-11s & found myself disappointed with them, but it's mostly just because I got used to the less-flat CA-14s. You'll likely be happy with what you get either way.
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 03:05:16 AM »
I used my CA 11 cards lately at an open air concert...as a backup mic and to improve the camera sound...I was surprised how good they sounded...used the same spot with the AKG CK 61 2 weeks before and was disappointed....

but sound coming out of an PA, seems to be pending on the band, music style, sound guy, etc., maybe that the CA 11 let the recording shine since I was the best match for the sound that day.






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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2018, 11:40:32 AM »
Thanks all for the advice. Went with the CA-11's and the Ugly Battery Box. 1st show Oct. 13th. We'll see how it goes.

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2018, 03:20:16 PM »
I used my CA 11 cards lately at an open air concert...as a backup mic and to improve the camera sound...I was surprised how good they sounded...used the same spot with the AKG CK 61 2 weeks before and was disappointed....

but sound coming out of an PA, seems to be pending on the band, music style, sound guy, etc., maybe that the CA 11 let the recording shine since I was the best match for the sound that day.


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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2018, 06:15:56 PM »
I'll never ignore an opportunity to say I love my CA11s. Use the omni almost exclusively as my stealth mic these days
Mics: Berliner CM-33, CA-14 card, CA-11 card & omni, AT-853, Sony ECM-907
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2018, 06:26:24 PM »
Thanks all for the advice. Went with the CA-11's and the Ugly Battery Box. 1st show Oct. 13th. We'll see how it goes.

Omni or cards? Have fun with it. Will you be putting thought into your positioning, or just clipping them to ya to get a recording no matter where you stand? Or will you try to set them up somewhere?

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2018, 12:42:13 AM »
Thanks all for the advice. Went with the CA-11's and the Ugly Battery Box. 1st show Oct. 13th. We'll see how it goes.

Omni or cards? Have fun with it. Will you be putting thought into your positioning, or just clipping them to ya to get a recording no matter where you stand? Or will you try to set them up somewhere?

Love2tape brings up important issues which are not always at the forefront when questions are asked about a particular small able-to-hidden microphone, which aren’t relevant to a big LDC mic like an AKG c414. How these mics will be used is as important a variable as what mic is being used.
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Beyerdynamic MC930, Line Audio CM3 and OM1.
Church CA11+14, Audiotechnica AT853.
Shure FP24, Audioroot Femto, Church CA9100, CA9200.
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2018, 11:42:55 AM »
Going with the cardioids and the croakies option. I have seats for 2 shows within the first 10 rows.

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2018, 04:49:35 PM »
I'm also very tall, so the croakies option should work out well.  :bigsmile:

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2018, 07:33:27 AM »
Thanks all for the advice. Went with the CA-11's and the Ugly Battery Box. 1st show Oct. 13th. We'll see how it goes.

Good choice. Good luck! And have fun!
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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2018, 02:13:23 AM »
If you are not a head-bobber or talker or head-turner, that should turn out great.

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2018, 09:07:30 AM »
I find myself using my CA-11 Omni's > CA-14 Cards Lately. I just love their full bass response.

Check out this pull from Delfest last year. So happy with how this one came out.

https://archive.org/details/BillyStrings2018-05-27.CA11Omnis.Flac24

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Re: Church CA-11
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2018, 12:02:49 PM »
^Great tape!

I agree. The ca-11 omnis are really nice.
mics: nakamichi cm-50 | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | primo em4052pmi4 | sp-cmc-4u/at-u853a 4.7k mod (h/c/sc) | ca-11 (c)
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200
recorder: roland r-05
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