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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2018, 12:35:47 PM »
I think this is more a successor to Sony's ICD-SX2000 with the addition of the "Rehearsal" gain setting feature. That model no longer appears to be on Sony's website and there is more than a passing resemblance between the two. I didn't do a detailed comparison of the specs (as still listed on B&H), but they look pretty close.

My memory of the SX2000 is that there was something annoying in the implementation of making higher res recordings.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2018, 01:05:58 PM »
It "only" goes down to 40Hz which seems goofy to me.

I didn't see that. Looks like quite a bummer. And I can't really think of a valid reason why Sony did this. The SX2000 had the same frequency range, but it was marketed primarily as a voice recorder. The PCM-A10 is clearly marketed for recording music, and it even has the "PCM" in the name, which suggests to me that Sony sees it in the same product category as their previous music recorders. I guess time will tell how this thing works out.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 01:22:06 PM »
I found a video of the A10 on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vjv6d71hJY

Some specs are visible in the background. They are in German. The topmost bullet point is "Diktiergerät", which means "Voice Recorder" or "Dictaphone"...
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2018, 01:32:18 PM »
This may be just a glorified voice recorder.

i think the URL makes that clear:

https://www.sony.com/electronics/voice-recorders/pcm-a10

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2018, 01:52:03 PM »
m10 is 24/96, too, or is it not? At any rate, 24/96 is dogs can hear only

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2018, 04:08:35 PM »
1.

Found this in the manual, which doesn't sound promising for stealth (or alot of field recording conditions):

https://helpguide.sony.net/icd/pcma10/v1/en2/contents/TP0001684409.html

Recording with manual volume adjustment (manual recording)
You can manually select the optimum recording volume level for the sound source.

Note
If you accidentally touch your linear PCM recorder or let an object come in contact with it while recording is in progress, rustling or scratching noises may be recorded.



2.

Is there a "hold" button? That was the biggest knock by people when the mixpre-3/6 came out.

3.

I suppose you could tell security it's a sex toy:


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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2018, 04:14:09 PM »
Note
If you accidentally touch your linear PCM recorder or let an object come in contact with it while recording is in progress, rustling or scratching noises may be recorded.

This is probably related to the internal microphones.

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Is there a "hold" button? That was the biggest knock by people when the mixpre-3/6 came out.

Yes, on the side. Combined with the power switch. Same as on the M10.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2018, 04:17:27 PM »



Looks kinda Trumpy, but what do I Know?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2018, 04:34:10 PM »
Note
If you accidentally touch your linear PCM recorder or let an object come in contact with it while recording is in progress, rustling or scratching noises may be recorded.

This is probably related to the internal microphones.


You're right, later in the manual the section on recording from an external device doesn't have that warning message.

At the $229 price point, it's definitely worth a tryout with external mics and a HQ preamp. The powering limitation kinda stinks.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2018, 05:09:09 PM »

The M10 was also just a glorified voice recorder.

Not in the sense of a dictaphone / memo keeper. The M10 was primarily for ENG (hence the omni mics) and of broadcast quality. A voice recorder implies fairly low quality.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2018, 09:12:50 PM »
This has the same cheapo look as some low end Tascam recorders. Hope it sounds great and I won't care how cheap it looks.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2018, 10:27:17 PM »
The built in USB is weird.
Says 15 hrs battery life but I wonder if you were not using google it for stealth and wanted to attach a battery pack if you could or if it would want to go into a transfer or charge mode
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2018, 03:07:23 AM »
The built in USB is weird.

I don't mind that. Actually I think it's quite handy for people who only use the internal memory and want to quickly transfer their recordings to a computer. Every time I want to do that with my M10, I have to search for that old-style miniature USB-B cable first.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2018, 10:22:32 AM »
At last they have dropped the M10 closely-spaced-omni mics, which were more or less useless for capturing any kind of stereo image.  The M10 mic quality was quite good apart from the imaging, so hopefully these will be generally as good with the added benefit of actual stereo.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2018, 03:05:53 PM »
I thought so, m10 settings. from crap to that only dogs can hear, I myself use 44.1 x24 as the smallest size that I can still do amplification on without hiss

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from m10 manual p 42

LPCM 22.05kHz/16bit
LPCM 44.10kHz/16bit
LPCM 44.10kHz/24bit
LPCM 48.00kHz/16bit
LPCM 48.00kHz/24bit
LPCM 96.00kHz/16bit
LPCM 96.00kHz/24bit
MP3 44.10kHz/64kbps
MP3 44.10kHz/128kbps
MP3 44.10kHz/320kbps

 

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