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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #300 on: June 08, 2019, 07:59:42 PM »
does your bat box have gain? line in prob safest bet
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #301 on: June 12, 2019, 11:23:13 AM »
Mine had no power/charging cable when it arrived... which cable do you use to charge?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #302 on: June 12, 2019, 11:26:01 AM »
Mine had no power/charging cable when it arrived... which cable do you use to charge?

Doesn't it charge via the attached usb "stick"?
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #303 on: June 12, 2019, 11:55:35 AM »
Mine had no power/charging cable when it arrived... which cable do you use to charge?

Doesn't it charge via the attached usb "stick"?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #304 on: June 12, 2019, 12:03:59 PM »
Hi, i just bought it and am confused.
I use Church audio ca and batterybox.
When i select external Settings there is "mic in" and "audio in" to select. What shall i choose here?
And is the locut just a Base roll off or a hard cut of Bass?
If your mics are omnidirectional, line in. If they're cardioids, mic in, low sensitivity.

Especially if they're cardioids, don't apply any highpass filters (aka bass roll-off). You can always dial it out in post-production but more often than not, I find myself dialing more in during post-production.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #305 on: June 13, 2019, 01:15:47 PM »
This thing has piqued my curiosity. 

Two quick questions (and I think this is helpful for everyone otherwise I might've directed these at a couple of people via PM):

1/ I read somewhere (not on here) that the recording level adjustments are audible -- is this the case or has a new firmware been released for it?

2/ With the Baby nBox, I'm assuming it's still mic in, low gain, correct?  And, from what I've recalled, the mic level inputs are better than the M10 but that the line level is noisier.

Thanks all!
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #306 on: June 13, 2019, 03:45:48 PM »
I personally have not heard any noise from adjusting the recording levels. I've used line in as well as mic in with the baby nbox
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #307 on: June 13, 2019, 04:21:48 PM »
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1/ I read somewhere (not on here) that the recording level adjustments are audible -- is this the case or has a new firmware been released for it?
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My guess is that it is impossible to fix in the firmware. I base this on two observations:
1) In the sales material for the Sony D10, Sony points to the analog gain control as a feature:”...because these are high-quality analog controls, you can adjust the gain smoothly, without the step noise that can be encountered with digital volume.” Thereby indirectly  saying that they can’t make it noise free electronically/digitally - which is how it is implemented in the A10.
2) Roland R07 - a similar contemporary recorder exhibit a similar gain phenomenon as seen in the A10.



Olympus LS-10 Roland R-07 SONY PCM-A10 -> FEL Communications Clippy EM172 or Roland CS-10EM
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #308 on: June 16, 2019, 05:38:52 PM »
Can you use the app on the Apple Watch?

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #309 on: June 16, 2019, 10:02:46 PM »
I personally have not heard any noise from adjusting the recording levels.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #310 on: June 17, 2019, 03:59:32 PM »
I personally have not heard any noise from adjusting the recording levels.

same

Thanks guys!
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #311 on: June 24, 2019, 10:51:43 PM »
Is anyone using an S9 with this recorder? I'm considering grabbing one but if it has problems with this phone I'll get the Roland.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #312 on: June 25, 2019, 10:22:31 AM »
So after a teardown Doug decided that this is not a candidate for modding.

From what i understand (and I asked for clarification, will update this im wrong)

the design utilizes the preamp that is internal to the A/D chips (it has two in parallel for better S/N), and there is currently no pin-compatible A/D upgrade so its dead in the water. overall its HQ though.

to quote (he talks about the d:vice as well which weve discussed a bit) :

I'm able to say it's fatally flawed in terms an upgrade because they use the internal to the A/D mic preamp. There is no pin compatible replacement for that ADC that offers better performance that I could locate. On the plus side they use high grade caps in the signal path and with high output mics, will do a good job. Using dual converters makes it even better. Given it's low cost and small size it's a good recorder for stealth tapers. I feel the DPA box is your best bet due to the quality of the components (he is talking about the MMA-A d:vice unit). It (the d:vice) could be improved only slightly by using a new op amp for the preamp. I know that chip well, it sounds damn good, I used it up until the end of last year.


his initial impression on the A10 (about a week earlier when he was just getting into it)...

I worked a little late last night and think that the A10 is impressive. It SEEMS to be using 2 AK4964 A/D chips, one for each channel. It also uses the same film caps I use in my best upgrades to decouple the mic power from the inputs. I've scanned the tech data for those chips and the mic preamp is surprisingly quiet with a DR of 100dB !
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #313 on: June 25, 2019, 11:01:14 AM »
This ^ seems like great news re the A10 quality.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #314 on: June 25, 2019, 08:07:26 PM »
Just posted Phish from Merriweather with A10 as the recorder. Sounds great, with nbox in front of it.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?torrentId=605955

Phish
23 June 2019 (Sunday)
Merriweather Post Pavilion
Columbia, MD

Source: Microtech Gefell M21 > nBob actives > nBox Platinum > Sony A10 (24/48)
Transfer: A10 > iMac. Tracked via Sound Studio, FLAC via xACT
« Last Edit: June 25, 2019, 08:35:57 PM by vwmule »

 

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