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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #345 on: July 07, 2019, 02:47:39 AM »
When recording amplified music, the greatest influence on the sound will be the quality of the amplification.  For any real comparison of mods etc, it needs to be acoustic music.  Or maybe I'm just an aged reactionary.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #346 on: July 07, 2019, 12:32:22 PM »
When recording amplified music, the greatest influence on the sound will be the quality of the amplification.  For any real comparison of mods etc, it needs to be acoustic music.  Or maybe I'm just an aged reactionary.

True. But, even with amplified music, gear makes an audible difference:

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #347 on: July 07, 2019, 01:21:44 PM »
this thing kinda pissed me off last night

i was at a fest and needed an extra recorder, wasnt planning on using it and grabbed it out of my backpack. i had the sd card out and internal memory was close to full... it filled up the internal memory and stopped recording.... heck if i could figure out how to delete music off of there from the device itself. was trying to just delete a whole artist as i dumped a bunch of summer phish flacs on there. While you can delete individual files it wasnt intuitive how to delete whole artists or albums. I gave up and trekked back to home base to grab an sd card out of another recorder, and lost more than i should

now after experimenting at home in a calmer environment i know to get there
go to music>artists>'phish'>'all phish'>(it takes you to a long list of all tracks tagged with that artist)>select any one track>'Option' button>'delete all in list'
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #348 on: July 07, 2019, 04:05:21 PM »
Well said Jerryfreak. Doug’s mantra has always been “trust your ears”. I bought a babynbox and after 2 shows, decided the m10 pres were very lacking to my ears. 620 warm mod is super sweet to my ears, kinda wished I’d known he modded m10s before I sold all theee and bought three 620s and had all three modded. :facepalm:
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #349 on: July 08, 2019, 01:55:50 PM »
Hi, i just bought it and am confused.
I use Church audio ca and batterybox.
When i select external Settings there is "mic in" and "audio in" to select. What shall i choose here?
And is the locut just a Base roll off or a hard cut of Bass?
If your mics are omnidirectional, line in. If they're cardioids, mic in, low sensitivity.

Especially if they're cardioids, don't apply any highpass filters (aka bass roll-off). You can always dial it out in post-production but more often than not, I find myself dialing more in during post-production.

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Bit confused here. Could use some conformation for my first gig with this new machine.

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Manual

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #350 on: July 08, 2019, 04:28:15 PM »
Hi, i just bought it and am confused.
I use Church audio ca and batterybox.
When i select external Settings there is "mic in" and "audio in" to select. What shall i choose here?
And is the locut just a Base roll off or a hard cut of Bass?
If your mics are omnidirectional, line in. If they're cardioids, mic in, low sensitivity.

Especially if they're cardioids, don't apply any highpass filters (aka bass roll-off). You can always dial it out in post-production but more often than not, I find myself dialing more in during post-production.

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Bit confused here. Could use some conformation for my first gig with this new machine.

Rock Concert (Open Air)
AT853 cards + Naiant IPA + Sony A10

Settings:
Audio IN
Manual

Right?
depends on the gain of the IPA

thats basically "line in, manual level control"

"mic in" will be higher gain, and also turn on PIP, but im pretty sure the IPA has caps to block PIP
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #351 on: July 15, 2019, 04:15:00 PM »
I've read a few reviews that say the battery drains while the unit is off. Has anyone had that experience?
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #352 on: July 15, 2019, 04:18:23 PM »
I've read a few reviews that say the battery drains while the unit is off. Has anyone had that experience?


havent noticed it. it does turn on quickly so prob lives in some sort of standby

ive never seen it drop a bar or anything in storage
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #353 on: July 17, 2019, 04:04:29 PM »
My a10 came in today. The app is great and works well with my s9+. Controls are easy and it pretty much disappears in my closed fist.

The usb is a little janky and I can see this possibly being an issue in the future.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #354 on: July 17, 2019, 04:34:10 PM »

The usb is a little janky and I can see this possibly being an issue in the future.

It’s a holdover from their memo recorders and a really bad design idea. I had a USB extension cable female to male and that makes it easier to connect the A10 to my computer.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #355 on: July 18, 2019, 02:12:19 PM »
Mine just arrived,it is tiny.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #356 on: July 18, 2019, 03:44:02 PM »
Nice setup. I dig the headphones  :cheers:

I like that the case leaves enough room for a right angle miniplug to stay in the mic input while protecting the screen.
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #357 on: July 18, 2019, 08:06:41 PM »
My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #358 on: July 19, 2019, 12:27:10 AM »
Very audible. That’s unfortunate.
Did you happen to do any parameter change during the part that clicks? Changing levels for example?
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Re: New SONY PCM-A10
« Reply #359 on: July 19, 2019, 12:32:05 AM »
My unit has an issue playing 2496 flac from the SD card

at some point most tracks will start to stutter and I have to reboot it

I haven’t been able to reproduce it using the internal memory. Second different sd card I tried, I tested the card fully written and read front to back it should be reading at 60 MB/second
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