Topic: New SONY PCM-A10

[beatkilla]

Mine just arrived,it is tiny.

what's that amp?

It is Sonic Studios PA24-U

https://web.archive.org/web/20180113110109/http://www.sonicstudios.com/access.htm#micamp

[DavidPuddy]

I can confirm that you can power the A10 with a power bank while recording. I may sell my M10 with this development...

[adrianf74]

My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

https://we.tl/t-EfYXovHiK2

That's a nasty surprise.  Has anybody else here experienced this?  Granted, I'm wondering how audible any of that would be with "louder rooms" but still unnerving to hear that.  I was thinking of picking one up but this one is a deterrent.

[beatkilla]

My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

https://we.tl/t-EfYXovHiK2

That's a nasty surprise.  Has anybody else here experienced this?  Granted, I'm wondering how audible any of that would be with "louder rooms" but still unnerving to hear that.  I was thinking of picking one up but this one is a deterrent.

Haven't seen any more reports of this but im holding off on this unit for now.Just stick with my M-10,DR-2d for now.

[adrianf74]

My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

https://we.tl/t-EfYXovHiK2

That's a nasty surprise.  Has anybody else here experienced this?  Granted, I'm wondering how audible any of that would be with "louder rooms" but still unnerving to hear that.  I was thinking of picking one up but this one is a deterrent.

Haven't seen any more reports of this but im holding off on this unit for now.Just stick with my M-10,DR-2d for now.

Dumb question: is there any sort of firmware update available?  And if there is, does this remedy it?  Just thought I'd ask (but knowing Sony, there isn't).

[chk]

Wow that clicking is no bueno. I can confirm that my A10 definitely does not do this.

[fobstl]

My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

https://we.tl/t-EfYXovHiK2

Was it doing this on the internal memory or a micro SD card, or both? Could a bad card cause this issue?

[beatkilla]

This was the internal memory at 24/48 also 24/96.It was audible about 65 percent of the time on all low level tests.

[jerryfreak]

Wow that clicking is no bueno. I can confirm that my A10 definitely does not do this.

same, and ive looked at plenty of low level recordings to see the noise floor

send that shit back

[DavidPuddy]

Has anyone established what unity gain is for "audio in" mode?

[Ozpeter]

Those clicks - actually peak to -22dB below full scale, are always the same shape, 8 samples long, but with ringing in the tail.  I'd guess at a static discharge within a circuit capacitor - or in a connected mic.  Have you tried swapping the mics over to the opposite channel, or connecting a different input device (or none)?  And retesting in a different location, also being sure you don't have a mobile phone too near? 

[Falconidave]

My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

https://we.tl/t-EfYXovHiK2

That's a nasty surprise.  Has anybody else here experienced this?  Granted, I'm wondering how audible any of that would be with "louder rooms" but still unnerving to hear that.  I was thinking of picking one up but this one is a deterrent.

I just received mine yesterday, and it has the clicking issue only when I mash on the physical level switch. When I use the phone app to adjust levels, no such clicking on the recording. Weird, sounds like a hardware issue. The app is rock solid though, unlike Roland's attempt on the R-07.

[beatkilla]

My unit has an issue.

I was doing low level tests of ambient sounds and noticed a click click click not always there but most of the time.External mics(3 different sets)built in mics and audio in with preamp.All produced this light low level click sound.You probably wouldn't notice at rock levels but mine is going back unfortunately.

Here is a 10 sec sample if anyone is interested.The most obvious of all recordings some were so low but still audible on headphones.

https://we.tl/t-EfYXovHiK2

That's a nasty surprise.  Has anybody else here experienced this?  Granted, I'm wondering how audible any of that would be with "louder rooms" but still unnerving to hear that.  I was thinking of picking one up but this one is a deterrent.

I just received mine yesterday, and it has the clicking issue only when I mash on the physical level switch. When I use the phone app to adjust levels, no such clicking on the recording. Weird, sounds like a hardware issue. The app is rock solid though, unlike Roland's attempt on the R-07.

Mine clicked without any volume adjustments.It has been returned.

I guess i got a lemon?Might come back to one of these in the future but for now can't risk this type of issue so sticking with trusty M-10.

[Brian E.]

Mine just arrived,it is tiny.

what's that amp?

It is Sonic Studios PA24-U

https://web.archive.org/web/20180113110109/http://www.sonicstudios.com/access.htm#micamp

Thanks!

I can confirm that you can power the A10 with a power bank while recording. I may sell my M10 with this development...

While cool (I assume through USB?), I can't imagine a situation where this would run out of juice.

[adrianf74]

Joining the team in about a week when my deck arrives.