Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Poll

Which is which?

#1 is nbox > DR-2D
3 (60%)
#2 is nbox > DR-2D
1 (20%)
Not sure
1 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: November 03, 2018, 12:47:17 AM

Author Topic: Comparison: mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D vs mk4's > PFA > mp-3  (Read 1769 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline checht

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 187
  • Gender: Male
  • Old and in the Way
Comparison: mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D vs mk4's > PFA > mp-3
« on: October 27, 2018, 12:47:17 AM »
At Hardly Strictly Bluegrass this month, recorded sitting next to a friend and thought it would be interesting to compare our recording chain, as we were both running mk4's with active cables.

The two setups, not in any particular order:
mk4's > nbob kcy > nbox platinum > DR-2D
mk4's > KCY 250/0 lg > Naiant PFA 60v > MP-3

We were sitting side by side, mics at same height  >:D. Did my best to match the gains; if anyone can get it closer, that'd be helpful.

The 2 stereo waves, along with Audacity project files with both stereo waves, in this folder:
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9bkaklgwozhnkb4/AADHqWl913ez2rK95XInmw7da?dl=0

Interested in whether folks can pick out which is which, and what differences are heard..
« Last Edit: October 27, 2018, 01:09:18 AM by checht »
Schoeps MSTC64g,  Shure MV-88
Schoeps KCY 250/0 lg, Naiant IPA, PFA 60v
Sound Devices MP-6, Roland R-07

Offline TheMetalist

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 171
Re: Comparison: mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D vs mk4's > PFA > mp-3
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2018, 03:17:01 AM »
My guess is that #1 is Nbox Platinum. That sample sounds natural and sample #2 is a bit hotter. Both sounds great, just different characteristics.

I have personally never used Platinum with MK4 but I have used it with MK41V and AKG 61/63. So, my guess is just a guess. :)
It's not about fancy equipment. It's about the thrill, passion and hard work. Liberate the music!

"The music is your passport - Your magic key - To all the madness that awaits you." B.L. '86

Offline tedyun

  • Trade Count: (27)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 427
Re: Comparison: mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D vs mk4's > PFA > mp-3
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 03:52:24 PM »
Wow the differences are pretty noticable here. I preferred tommy comp2. I found the soundstage wider; low end and mid range more present. The differences could be due to mic placement? Eg., was tommy comp1 in XY and tommy comp2 in DIN?

Playback: PC > Foobar (ABX Comparator plugin) > USB > Sound Devices USBPre2 > Yuin OK1 Headphones

I would guess that tommy comp2 is the nbox based on the fact that the transformers are supposed to smoothen the sound.


At Hardly Strictly Bluegrass this month, recorded sitting next to a friend and thought it would be interesting to compare our recording chain, as we were both running mk4's with active cables.

The two setups, not in any particular order:
mk4's > nbob kcy > nbox platinum > DR-2D
mk4's > KCY 250/0 lg > Naiant PFA 60v > MP-3

We were sitting side by side, mics at same height  >:D. Did my best to match the gains; if anyone can get it closer, that'd be helpful.

The 2 stereo waves, along with Audacity project files with both stereo waves, in this folder:
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9bkaklgwozhnkb4/AADHqWl913ez2rK95XInmw7da?dl=0

Interested in whether folks can pick out which is which, and what differences are heard..
Mics: B&K 4011, Schoeps MK5 (Nbobs, Naiant PFA), Busman BSC-1 (K11/K21/K31/K41 caps), Church CA-14 (o, c), Church CAFS, Core Sound Binaurals
Pre: EAA PSP-2,  Lunatec V3, Nbox-Platinum, Church CA-9200
ADC: Mytek 192 ADC, Oade Mod SBM-1
Rec: Oade Supermod PMD-661, Tascam DR60D, M-Audio MicroTrack II, Korg MR-1 (32GB SSD mod); Sony PCM-M10, Edirol R09HR; iRiver HP-120
Photo: Canon 5D3, Canon EF-S 17-55mm f2.8, Canon EF 35mm f1.4L Canon EF 24-70 f2.8L MkI, Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS MkI, Canon EF 50 mm f1.4, Canon EF 50 f1.2L, Canon EF 300 f/4L IS, Canon EF 100-400 f4-5.6L IS MkI
Video: Canon HF100

Offline adrianf74

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 337
  • Gender: Male
Re: Comparison: mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D vs mk4's > PFA > mp-3
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2018, 11:26:00 AM »
My guess is comp 1 is the nBox Platinum and comp 2 is the PFA/MP3 showing off what the MP3 can do.  Personally, while comp 2 seems to have more of a soundstage, as Tedyun pointed out, I actually prefer the sound of comp 1 which seems flatter and more natural.

Curious to see which is which. I've voted.

Offline checht

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 187
  • Gender: Male
  • Old and in the Way
Re: Comparison: mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D vs mk4's > PFA > mp-3
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2018, 02:31:45 PM »
Comp 1 is the PFA  > MP3 signal path.

Very interesting to read the various comments, thanks for your input.

Going to 3 CRB shows @ the Fillmore in December, and could probably borrow a couple other sets of caps to use while in SF.
Thinking to do three comparisons:
 MSTC64 > MP6 vs mk4's (ORTF) > KCY 250/0 lg > Naiant PFA 60v > MP-6
and
 MSTC64 > MP6 vs mk4v's (ORTF?) > KCY 250/0 lg > Naiant PFA 60v > MP-6
and
mk4's (ORTF) > KCY 250/0 lg > Naiant IPA > Roland R-09 vs mk4's > nbox platinum > DR-2D
Schoeps MSTC64g,  Shure MV-88
Schoeps KCY 250/0 lg, Naiant IPA, PFA 60v
Sound Devices MP-6, Roland R-07

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.098 seconds with 35 queries.
© 2002-2018 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF