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LOM mics
« on: November 08, 2018, 05:46:06 PM »
cross posting this from another thread. What I hear doesn't sound bad, I hope that some folks can give some of these a try and let us know what they think

x posted from Church Audio shipping thread

"https://store.lom.audio/collections/microphones-accessories

Has anyone tried LOM mic's?  A friend said he ordered a pair of omni mic's - mostly for ambient sound."

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 05:53:55 PM »
The company itself is pretty neat: https://lom.audio/about-us/
Recordings on LMA: https://archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22Lucas+Lorenz%22
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 06:13:34 PM »
noted this statement, too , hope some of our members (Euros?) can give these a try

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All LOM instruments are assembled, checked for quality and packed in Bratislava, Slovakia, either by us or by robots. Uši capsules and cabling are made in Japan. We use high-quality, long-lasting, gold-plated Neutrik connectors made in Lichtenstein. We generally try to avoid third-world sourced manufacturing, whereever possible.

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 10:18:06 AM »
I'm a fan of what Jonas is doing with LOM. It's fun to see him working through product and artistic ideas on his Instagram accounts: @lomlabel & @jonas.gruska.

I've got a pair of the original non-modular Usi Pros (XLR, phantom, EM172 capsule) and a pair of the tiny mikroUsi (1/8" stereo, PiP). I bought them to use for field recording. They sound pretty good to my ears though I don't have high-end mics to compare them to. The mikroUsi mics are a little fragile; on their first outing (a week long trip around Israel) I managed to pull the cables slightly away from the mic bodies while putting on windscreens. They still work properly.

Nothing online from them at the moment; if I've got time next week I'll try to put something up.

I've also been using his Elektrosluch 3 and Priezor instruments, which are a lot of fun.

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2018, 03:23:09 PM »
The sample sounds nice and the build quality looks top notch ... I'm not too sure about the 115SPL though. If they can handle the 4.7k MOD these could be a nice/inexpensive alternative to the B3's.
Mics: AKG LC81-MD Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Audio-Technica U853AW Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Microphone Madness MM-BSM-7M Omni | Soundman OKMii Pop Omni | (2) Zoom LMF-1 Omni (Stereo 3.5mm Plug).
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2018, 08:49:49 AM »
Hey guys,

Jonas from LOM here. Thanks for all the kind words!

The mikroUsi mics are a little fragile; on their first outing (a week long trip around Israel) I managed to pull the cables slightly away from the mic bodies while putting on windscreens. They still work properly.

I'd be happy to send you a replacement pair! My main goal is to make you happy :)

Let me know if you have any questions!


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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2018, 09:15:50 AM »
Many of us may wonder, what would be costs for shipping to USA and do you take PayPal?

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2018, 12:34:19 PM »
I'd be happy to send you a replacement pair! My main goal is to make you happy :)

Jonas, very kind of you but not necessary. I am happy. Mics work perfectly well still; it's just cosmetic. I've learned to place the windscreens on more gently.

A recording from that Israel trip with the mikroUsi of a nun sweeping the floor at the Church of the Multiplication:

https://soundcloud.com/user-202317372/nun-sweeping-mosaic-floor-tabgha-israel

The mics were clipped to either side of my backpack, the bag was set on the floor, and the recorder is a D100. The nun was ~10' feet away. As I recall it was only the nun and I in the church during this minute or so. The background voices were drifting in from the courtyard. This won't help those rock n' roll tapers, but hopefully is a useful sample of how the mics sound in a quiet space.

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2018, 02:23:56 PM »
I'd be happy to send you a replacement pair! My main goal is to make you happy :)

Jonas, very kind of you but not necessary. I am happy. Mics work perfectly well still; it's just cosmetic. I've learned to place the windscreens on more gently.

A recording from that Israel trip with the mikroUsi of a nun sweeping the floor at the Church of the Multiplication:

https://soundcloud.com/user-202317372/nun-sweeping-mosaic-floor-tabgha-israel

The mics were clipped to either side of my backpack, the bag was set on the floor, and the recorder is a D100. The nun was ~10' feet away. As I recall it was only the nun and I in the church during this minute or so. The background voices were drifting in from the courtyard. This won't help those rock n' roll tapers, but hopefully is a useful sample of how the mics sound in a quiet space.

Amazing. I found that very relaxing, and honestly, a beautiful recording. I could almost transport myself there and see the Nun sweeping. Beautiful job.
Mics: AKG LC81-MD Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Audio-Technica U853AW Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Microphone Madness MM-BSM-7M Omni | Soundman OKMii Pop Omni | (2) Zoom LMF-1 Omni (Stereo 3.5mm Plug).
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2018, 02:31:10 PM »
thanks for this thread. posting for future reference and sound examples of concerts with these puppies.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2018, 02:34:53 PM »
thanks for this thread. posting for future reference and sound examples of concerts with these puppies.

I agree, I am very tempted to pick up a set and have the 4.7k mod done.
Mics: AKG LC81-MD Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Audio-Technica U853AW Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Microphone Madness MM-BSM-7M Omni | Soundman OKMii Pop Omni | (2) Zoom LMF-1 Omni (Stereo 3.5mm Plug).
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2018, 03:16:23 PM »
Really nice recording indeed :)

Many of us may wonder, what would be costs for shipping to USA and do you take PayPal?

We accept PayPal and shipping to US depends on the weight of the package, but for basic set of mics it should be 10€ for 1st class tracked postage.
The prices are listed without tax and you may be asked to pay the tax when receiving the mics.

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2018, 04:55:36 PM »
Mrkva,

It appears to me that all of your mics are omnis (if I missed something I apologize in advance as I'm reading the site from my phone).  Are they intended for diffuse field or free field use?

Also, are you familiar with the 4.7k mod that's been mentioned in this thread?  If so, would you consider offering it in your mics?
Recordings on LMA: https://archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22Lucas+Lorenz%22
Mics: Core Sound TetraMic | AT4031s | AT AE5100s | AT853s (C/SC) | Line Audio CM3s | DPA 4061s | CA-14 omnis | Studio Projects CS5 Pre: CA9200 Decks: Zoom F8 | Roland R-05 | Tascam DR-2d

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2018, 05:33:56 PM »
This recording of a Bar Mitzvah proceeding through the streets of Tzfat I am 95% sure was also made with the mikroUsis into my D100. It gives a sense of how they fare with louder sources. Again, clipped to the side of my backpack. The picture gives a sense of the space and where the mics were in relation to the musicians.

https://soundcloud.com/user-202317372/bar-mitzvah-in-streets-of-sefad


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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2018, 06:35:52 PM »
Mrkva,

It appears to me that all of your mics are omnis (if I missed something I apologize in advance as I'm reading the site from my phone).  Are they intended for diffuse field or free field use?

Also, are you familiar with the 4.7k mod that's been mentioned in this thread?  If so, would you consider offering it in your mics?

+1. I would be VERY INTERESTED.
Mics: AKG LC81-MD Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Audio-Technica U853AW Cardioid (4.7k MOD) | Microphone Madness MM-BSM-7M Omni | Soundman OKMii Pop Omni | (2) Zoom LMF-1 Omni (Stereo 3.5mm Plug).
Pres: Soundman A3 Battery Box .
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 08:15:26 PM »
This recording of a Bar Mitzvah proceeding through the streets of Tzfat I am 95% sure was also made with the mikroUsis into my D100. It gives a sense of how they fare with louder sources. Again, clipped to the side of my backpack. The picture gives a sense of the space and where the mics were in relation to the musicians.

https://soundcloud.com/user-202317372/bar-mitzvah-in-streets-of-sefad
That recording locked up for me.  Works now.   Very nice.We need more of this !
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2018, 08:43:37 PM »
Hi Mrkva,

welcome in the forum. We are neighbors, I am from Prague. Microphones look very interesting. It seems that the purpose is for ambiance recordings. I would like to ask if they are suitable for recording music? If yes, could be the microphones compared to internal microphones in better hand held recorders e.g. in the Sony M10 or are they improved? Do you have any music recordings?

I wish you all the best. I like what you do.

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2018, 06:13:05 AM »
It appears to me that all of your mics are omnis (if I missed something I apologize in advance as I'm reading the site from my phone).  Are they intended for diffuse field or free field use?

Also, are you familiar with the 4.7k mod that's been mentioned in this thread?  If so, would you consider offering it in your mics?

Yes, omnis only. They are not specialised enough in their response that free-field or diffuse-field use would make a difference (and we don't have proper equipment to measure it precisely, unfortunately).
I am not familiar with the mod, so will have look into that – but our main goal is recording with very low self-noise, so we don't want to sacrifice that for higher SPLs. There is already a plenty of mics in that market.

Hi Mrkva,

welcome in the forum. We are neighbors, I am from Prague. Microphones look very interesting. It seems that the purpose is for ambiance recordings. I would like to ask if they are suitable for recording music? If yes, could be the microphones compared to internal microphones in better hand held recorders e.g. in the Sony M10 or are they improved? Do you have any music recordings?

I wish you all the best. I like what you do.

Zdravíčko :) For music – yes, unless it is not louder then the max SPLs stated on our websites. They are _very_ sensitive, more sensitive then most regular mics you can find on the market – I often need only couple of dB of amplification. In my personal opinion, they sound better then any built-in mic, maybe with exception of Sony PCM-D100, which seems to be similar. But in this comparison, the main benefit is the ability of free positioning and eliminating the handling noise. We also sell custom-made Rycote mounts for 3/8" mounting.

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2018, 08:12:11 AM »
Vďaka  :) for your answers.

I am not familiar with the mod, so will have look into that – but our main goal is recording with very low self-noise, so we don't want to sacrifice that for higher SPLs. There is already a plenty of mics in that market.
Most people here on the forum are recording amplified music on stage or near PA. So the max. SPL is important for us. I think 122 dB SPL is enough for me, maybe for someone here it can be low. The other thing is the microphone sensitivity. Most of us use custom preamps or handheld recorders with battery box. The signal should not be too hot to prevent the brickwalling in the input of preamp or recorder. But that could be solved by some attenuator.

The mod 4.7k is intended for some electret microphones in two wires configuration to avoiding brickwalling in the microphone FET and increase the max. SPL. This also reduces the sensitivity of the microphone, which is sometimes an advantage and sometimes a disadvantage. Mod 4.7k is adding the resistor to the FET between source and ground. The value of the resistance and whether it is appropriate at all depend on the design of the microphone.

In my personal opinion, they sound better then any built-in mic, maybe with exception of Sony PCM-D100, which seems to be similar. But in this comparison, the main benefit is the ability of free positioning and eliminating the handling noise. We also sell custom-made Rycote mounts for 3/8" mounting.
Thank you for your comparison. Sure, the benefit of free positioning and the handling noise are clear.
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2018, 08:36:04 AM »
It appears to me that all of your mics are omnis (if I missed something I apologize in advance as I'm reading the site from my phone).  Are they intended for diffuse field or free field use?

Also, are you familiar with the 4.7k mod that's been mentioned in this thread?  If so, would you consider offering it in your mics?

Yes, omnis only. They are not specialised enough in their response that free-field or diffuse-field use would make a difference (and we don't have proper equipment to measure it precisely, unfortunately).
I am not familiar with the mod, so will have look into that – but our main goal is recording with very low self-noise, so we don't want to sacrifice that for higher SPLs. There is already a plenty of mics in that market.

Good point and thanks for the information.
Recordings on LMA: https://archive.org/search.php?query=taper%3A%22Lucas+Lorenz%22
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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2018, 02:36:49 PM »
Really nice recording indeed :)

Many of us may wonder, what would be costs for shipping to USA and do you take PayPal?

We accept PayPal and shipping to US depends on the weight of the package, but for basic set of mics it should be 10€ for 1st class tracked postage.
The prices are listed without tax and you may be asked to pay the tax when receiving the mics.

Is it possible to pick them up in Bratislava?

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Re: LOM mics
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2018, 11:02:10 PM »
I've looked at LOM too many times, and thought, Legion of Mary.
thats all - carry on.
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