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Offline DavidPuddy

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MBHO Active Setup Question
« on: November 28, 2018, 01:49:52 AM »
I'm looking at eventually upgrading my starter rig to the setup below. Is this realistic or would I need IPAs or something along those lines in between the MP6? It looks like the MP6 supplies 48v via XLR.

MBHO 600 (hyper cap) > MBHO 603a (capsule adapter) > mini XLR to XLR cable > MP6

I don't want to shell out for the preamp bodies if this setup takes care of everything.
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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2018, 02:00:09 AM »
The MBHO 603A is a microphone that consists of the body and capsule adapter:


So you need one of the following:
  • The 603A body between capsule adapter and MP6 (biggest and most expensive solution to your problem).
  • IPA, PFAs or NBox (I've heard rumours that there's a version that supports MBHOs) to power the capsules.

You can't just run the capsule directly into the MP6. The capsule requires polarization voltage, not phantom power.

Since you'll be running a MP6 that can provide 48V phantom power, my suggestion is to get PFAs that will convert the phantom power to the proper mic polarization voltage.
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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2018, 10:07:28 AM »
Naiant will make you the proper PFA. Now what I'm wondering is if anyone is making the 4-pin mini-XLR cables required now that Darktrain is not making cables. I need to buy a longer pair for my setup, preferably snaked, if anyone is doing this....

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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 10:14:49 AM »
Naiant will make you the proper PFA. Now what I'm wondering is if anyone is making the 4-pin mini-XLR cables required now that Darktrain is not making cables. I need to buy a longer pair for my setup, preferably snaked, if anyone is doing this....

Hit up tgakidis.  He can make you anything you need.

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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 10:17:09 AM »
Awesome. Thanks for the quick replies.
Mics: nbobs/480+ck61/62/63; C568EB; MKE2
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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2018, 10:26:49 AM »
Naiant will make you the proper PFA. Now what I'm wondering is if anyone is making the 4-pin mini-XLR cables required now that Darktrain is not making cables. I need to buy a longer pair for my setup, preferably snaked, if anyone is doing this....

Hit up tgakidis.  He can make you anything you need.

Good idea. I didn't think to ask him. I guess all I need to specify is 4-pin mini-XLR right? There's no other special details those cables will require?

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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2018, 11:14:41 AM »
Nick also makes “actives” for mbho’s... pm schoepsnbox

He is making me a set with ability to run on a pfa setup or nbox currently

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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2018, 11:16:40 AM »
Good idea. I didn't think to ask him. I guess all I need to specify is 4-pin mini-XLR right? There's no other special details those cables will require?

No, there's no black magic involved. Each pin on one end needs to be wired to the same pin on the other end.
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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2018, 11:17:07 AM »
Naiant will make you the proper PFA.

Has anyone reliably heard back from Naiant in awhile? I know theres a thread where guys havent heard anything back in quite some time.

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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2018, 01:44:39 PM »
^ did you send him an email, or a PM? He does not check his PM's here from what I understand
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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2018, 03:51:03 PM »
To follow up, here's the end result:

https://imgur.com/a/GXAerm1

Very happy with how it turned out.
Mics: nbobs/480+ck61/62/63; C568EB; MKE2
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Re: MBHO Active Setup Question
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2018, 04:42:19 PM »
To follow up, here's the end result:

https://imgur.com/a/GXAerm1

Very happy with how it turned out.

nice. i just saw this thread now so i'm a bit late on chiming in, but i did the same exact thing about a year and a half ago. ka200n's > 603a cartridges > naiant ipas > mixpre-6 with cables made by ted/gakables. it's a great setup. don't see why anyone would spend the extra $700 on the mbho bodies unless you've really got a hangup about using all original manufacturer gear. it's too bad dale raised their prices on all mbho stuff though. i saved several hundred bucks by getting the mbho portion of the rig from them when i did.

 

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