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Offline thebeaker

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Equalizing Kick-Drum
« on: December 05, 2018, 03:19:24 AM »
Hi Folks,
I recorded a concert yesterday and it was druns, bass, eguitar, keys and vocals.
It was moderately loud and not THAT rocking sound, but well hand made ;)
There was definetly real much bass from bassguitar and drums (kickdrum)
I recorded with Zoom F1 and CA11 v2 with 9v batterybox.
Records turned out very good, but has a little problem with the bassdrum. I dont think it is distorted ony my mics/Zoom. Maybe it sounded in the location even not that good which I did not notice.
Can´t really describe what it sounds like, maybe i need to upload it.

So it is really a big bass to hear (kick drum) which hurts in my ears with headphones like DT770 PRO overear.
I am trying to EQ with Audacity, but even if i reduce -20db until 125hz I still hear this heavy bassdrum sound but the complete bass sound of the music reduces dramatically...

Does anyone know about which frequency has to be ajusted to avoid this big push?

Hope you understand what I mean.

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Re: Equalizing Kick-Drum
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2018, 04:08:10 AM »
This image is kind of basic but may help. Maybe try a High pass filter and try starting at different frequencies and db increments until you start to hear a positive change. Im sure sure someone on here would be better at instructing you. If I cant pinpoint the eq I try this method sometimes.

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Re: Equalizing Kick-Drum
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2018, 06:45:25 AM »
I’m not sure I’d recommend using a hpf. Try stacking a few low shelves, one to taper off the super sub stuff that is just unnecessary (below 40hz give or take), a slightly more gradual one to tame the low mids (150-300ish,) and I first you’re still having problems try to find the low fundamental of the kick (usually in the 60hz area.) play around with sweeping frequencies and see what you can find. Keep in mind that the attack of the kick could live all the way in the 10khz range and that all you can is try to tame it. Any large cuts will most likely have a detrimental effect on the ref of the music.
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Re: Equalizing Kick-Drum
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2018, 08:34:09 AM »
Check out this thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=187304.0

I had reasonable success dealing with this using dynamic compression in the TDR Nova plugin.  I've since used that approach on at least one other recording, and have been pretty happy with it.
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Re: Equalizing Kick-Drum
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2018, 12:08:02 PM »
another vote for a multi-band compressor.

Maybe the tone boosters v4.
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