Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: Audition or Audacity?  (Read 2434 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Dan33185

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 50
  • Gender: Male
    • http://mngneissrecordings.blogspot.com/
Audition or Audacity?
« on: December 10, 2018, 02:04:21 PM »
I've been using Adobe Audition to master shows as long as I've been recording, but I see a bunch of people here use Audacity as well. Is there an advantage to using one over the other, or does it just come down to personal preference?

Offline morst

  • Archivist: Camper Van Beethoven & Cracker
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3114
  • ISO ALL archival Cracker / CVB / Monks Of Doom etc
    • Soundscape Preservation Society
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2018, 04:47:17 PM »
Is the adobe product free, open source, and runs on mac, linux and pc?


Audacity meets those criteria.
Teams: Neumann, Bay Area Tapers, Multitrack, Pioneertown Tapers, Mac Geeks, Cassette Masters, Poster Collectors, Alumni of teams St Louis, Upper Midwest & Milwaukee / Southern Wisco

Offline Dan33185

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 50
  • Gender: Male
    • http://mngneissrecordings.blogspot.com/
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2018, 12:05:09 AM »
Is the adobe product free, open source, and runs on mac, linux and pc?


Audacity meets those criteria.

No, but let's pretend all things are equal as far as price and OS for the sake of this thread. I'm just asking about the actual programs, nothing else.

Offline wforwumbo

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 106
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2018, 02:06:57 PM »
The correct answer is, use whichever tools and methodologies you find most appropriate. I use Logic, because that's what is the easiest workflow for me and gets me the sound I want. The above comment points out some benefits to using Audacity, but the same argument can be made for Reaper; I don't think one tool is inherently "better" or "worse" than the other, and it isn't necessarily the sole reason why you should or shouldn't use a program. Both are different and have their purposes. I don't think Audition and Audacity are equivocal, both accomplish different skill sets and different work flows. I say use whatever works best for you and gets you the sound you want, just like taper gear.
2x Schoeps mk21 (matched pair) -> nbob KCY -> Naiant PFA -> Sound Devices Mixpre 6

Offline 108Ω

  • + pace, amore e felicita +
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 10314
  • Gender: Male
  • Waiting on the next cladogenetic event...
    • Oceana North America
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 07:10:32 PM »
Audition, if this is a "which do you like better" thread.
I have a bunch of workflows and filter sets built-out already and it makes life easier

Wavelab also a favorite
Soundforge, and Samplitude-Sequoia are also on my "familiar and like" list

I still use CD-Wave for tracking, yup, I'm a fossil...

"Peace is for everyone"
        - Norah Jones
"We tape to taste life twice, in the moment and in retrospect"
                      (with apologies to Anais Nin)

Offline morst

  • Archivist: Camper Van Beethoven & Cracker
  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3114
  • ISO ALL archival Cracker / CVB / Monks Of Doom etc
    • Soundscape Preservation Society
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2018, 12:06:32 AM »
Teams: Neumann, Bay Area Tapers, Multitrack, Pioneertown Tapers, Mac Geeks, Cassette Masters, Poster Collectors, Alumni of teams St Louis, Upper Midwest & Milwaukee / Southern Wisco

Offline Dan33185

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 50
  • Gender: Male
    • http://mngneissrecordings.blogspot.com/
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2018, 03:05:13 AM »
Audition, if this is a "which do you like better" thread.
I have a bunch of workflows and filter sets built-out already and it makes life easier

Wavelab also a favorite
Soundforge, and Samplitude-Sequoia are also on my "familiar and like" list

I still use CD-Wave for tracking, yup, I'm a fossil...



Hey, same here! Guess I'm a fossil as well  :lol:

Offline Ben Turnbull

  • Don't ask me about Audacity...
  • Trade Count: (15)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8902
  • Gender: Male
  • A Clark Nova ate my lunch... Don't ask, just pee
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2018, 06:13:21 AM »
CDwav is still relevant IMO. Easy tracking with the advantage of being able to write flacs and produce cue sheets.  Audition 3.0 was free for a while but that link may have gone away. I like it as I think the multi tracking is more intuitive. It presents as a more mature interface but I haven't seen everything so it may very well be just dated.   :shrug:
Only seeing two shows a month now...
-My name is Ben, and I'm an AQhaulic ranting hysterically in my dotage ...
Read "Toward the End of Time" by Updike to know my name sake.
Official Archivist for Jazz Central Studios, MinniMN
DPA4021/SKM140/NakCM1k/ADK A51s/Countryman B3/ATes943/SPc4(och)/S'lux s502... >
TinyBox OT> PCM-M10/DR-680/R4/T+mod UA5 needs attention

Online ThePiedPiper

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 217
  • Gender: Male
    • Flute In The Gallery
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2018, 08:36:48 AM »
Audition 3.0 for me is my go to program. Like 108Ω said WaveLab is very good. CDWaveEditor for tracking ... it's still (for me) the best method.  I also use a program called AddAWav for when I need to join (vs splitting) files.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2018, 08:40:14 AM by ThePiedPiper »
Naiant X-X Omni-Directional Mics > Sound Professionals SP-SPSB-10 Micro-Mini 12vdc Power Supply > Unistar Lil’ Red Whip Connector > Zoom F1 MicroSD Recorder (24BIT, 96kHz) > 32GB Kingston MicroSD Card.

Online audBall

  • Trade Count: (36)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • Posts: 5926
  • Gender: Male
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2018, 09:10:05 AM »
Audition 3.0 was free for a while but that link may have gone away. I like it as I think the multi tracking is more intuitive. It presents as a more mature interface but I haven't seen everything so it may very well be just dated.   :shrug:

The old Adobe link to access AA3.0 and Photoshop CS2 isn't accessible via the Wayback Machine anymore.

However, there is the following Adobe link below that appears to allow you to download AA3.0 (and others).  Serial numbers are available on the right column.  You must first click the 'Accept' box since the files are no longer supported by Adobe.

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/cs2-product-downloads.html?promoid=19SCDRQK#download-products

Offline Ben Turnbull

  • Don't ask me about Audacity...
  • Trade Count: (15)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8902
  • Gender: Male
  • A Clark Nova ate my lunch... Don't ask, just pee
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2018, 06:57:46 AM »
^ I  only see Acrobat and Creative Suites linked. Is Audition part of the CS?
Only seeing two shows a month now...
-My name is Ben, and I'm an AQhaulic ranting hysterically in my dotage ...
Read "Toward the End of Time" by Updike to know my name sake.
Official Archivist for Jazz Central Studios, MinniMN
DPA4021/SKM140/NakCM1k/ADK A51s/Countryman B3/ATes943/SPc4(och)/S'lux s502... >
TinyBox OT> PCM-M10/DR-680/R4/T+mod UA5 needs attention

Online audBall

  • Trade Count: (36)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • Posts: 5926
  • Gender: Male
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2018, 09:47:37 AM »
^ Click the "I Accept" box, then below click the language of choice.  Once you do that, an entire list of programs is generated, including Audition 3.0 and Photoshop CS2.

edit - I should state that I am still using Audition 3.0 from the old (inactive) link.  However, this newer link appears to offer the same applications. 

Let me know how it works out.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2018, 09:50:31 AM by audBall »

Offline u2_fly_2

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 431
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2019, 03:53:53 PM »
Audacity is free and have all basic features a sound editor needs.

Adobe is based on the old "Cool Edit"-software and is really good and professional sound editing software which have everything you need in one programme.
Soundprofessionals Audio Technica AT 943 (SP-CMC-8) External Stereo Microphones > SP-SPSB-10-80020
Sound Professionals Micro-mini microphone power supply with mini 12vdc battery and 24 inch hardwired output cable Soundprofessionals Batterybox >> Olympus Ls-10 Linear Recorder > 4 GB > 24 Bit / 48 Khz  > 24 Bit / 96 Khz

Zoom Q3 HD - 1080p / 96-24 Bit

Roland R-26 (96 / 24 Bit)

Sony PCM-D100 (192 / 24 Bit)

Offline Ben Turnbull

  • Don't ask me about Audacity...
  • Trade Count: (15)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8902
  • Gender: Male
  • A Clark Nova ate my lunch... Don't ask, just pee
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2019, 06:01:21 PM »
Kind of a HiJack, but one thing I've found with Audition 3.0.1 is that if you ever  have a set of show tracks that you want to work as a single file again, there is an option under FILE to "Open Appended".  Be alert... that first 01 track will invariably be found somewhere after the file that gets inserted in the editing window. Sometimes the last file is "first" then the 01, other times it's a mess. Very frustrating to sort out. I see no way to teach it to do otherwise.

I don't use this tool that much so it's just a warning, not a prohibition towards Audition.

Good Luck
Only seeing two shows a month now...
-My name is Ben, and I'm an AQhaulic ranting hysterically in my dotage ...
Read "Toward the End of Time" by Updike to know my name sake.
Official Archivist for Jazz Central Studios, MinniMN
DPA4021/SKM140/NakCM1k/ADK A51s/Countryman B3/ATes943/SPc4(och)/S'lux s502... >
TinyBox OT> PCM-M10/DR-680/R4/T+mod UA5 needs attention

Offline nassau73

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2019, 06:01:28 PM »
Kind of a HiJack, but one thing I've found with Audition 3.0.1 is that if you ever  have a set of show tracks that you want to work as a single file again, there is an option under FILE to "Open Appended".  Be alert... that first 01 track will invariably be found somewhere after the file that gets inserted in the editing window. Sometimes the last file is "first" then the 01, other times it's a mess. Very frustrating to sort out. I see no way to teach it to do otherwise.

I don't use this tool that much so it's just a warning, not a prohibition towards Audition.

Good Luck

Just to "possibly" help clarify the above -

The option "Open Append" will add/append the new file you are opening to the end of the file or files you already have opened. Append as many files as you like.

You can then "Save As" a new file and all the files will be in the order you appended. Remember to tick the "Save Non Audio Information" box when doing your "Save As" otherwise you will lose all your track markers.

The confusion can arise when once you are done with your editing session and want to - once again - save all the tracks as individual files.

In order to save everything INDIVIDUALLY and in correct order, you need to add a track marker at the very beginning AND at the very end of your saved appended file.

Then go to the "Window > Marker List" dropdown menu item.
Select all your files - don't move anything around. The track markers you added at the end and beginning may look out of sequence but don't worry.
Click the "Merge Button"
Then click the "Save" button

Now you can choose where to save your files. Compose a File Name and choose to start the numbering at 1.


Offline nassau73

  • Trade Count: (3)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2019, 10:51:06 PM »
Audacity has some great functionality. In my opinion, Audition has a more "refined" interface.

Another benefit of Audition is the number of standard plugins that are included. Many of which are from Izotope.

Although I don't recall the Audacity functionality on this ability, I like the Audition "Mastering Rack". Here you can stack the various plugins and turn them on and off to hear how the gamut of the effects you are using affect the final sound. Once you are happy, you can "save" (although other programs say "render").

Over the last several months, I bought Izotope RX7 Standard and added the Ozone 8 Elements plugin. To my ears on my speakers, it seems that the Izotope programs sound a bit "cleaner".

While in the past I alternated between Audacity and Audition (depending on needs), these days I tend to use RX7 first and touch up with Audition (or vice versa depending on plugins needed) if necessary. The difference is that Audition has the "mastering rack" ability while with Izotope you have to render each manipulation before you move on to the next. (from what I've been reading, if you buy the full Izotope suite, you'd be able to approximate the mastering rack capability. However, I'm not studio recording - mixing instruments in separate tracks - all I need is post for a simple stereo live audience capture.


Offline Ben Turnbull

  • Don't ask me about Audacity...
  • Trade Count: (15)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8902
  • Gender: Male
  • A Clark Nova ate my lunch... Don't ask, just pee
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2019, 09:46:00 AM »
^^ and ^, good input and appreciated.

When I use the Open Appended tool it's invariably into and empty track and the goal is to join/combine all the previously separate tracks. The trouble I tried to describe is that between marking the files (in an explorer window) and the importation of them, they will almost always be out of order for some reason. I don't save the new single file with markers either. In many cases I'm working my own file sets and have a cue sheet to re-track any work I want to save... Primarily because I don't know if Audition will save to individual files based on a list of markers or what not.

That's been my experience.

I totally agree with the utility of the multi track mode of Audition. I have more than once used that mode on a single file just to employ the tools I want to use in a Rack format.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 09:57:47 AM by Ben Turnbull »
Only seeing two shows a month now...
-My name is Ben, and I'm an AQhaulic ranting hysterically in my dotage ...
Read "Toward the End of Time" by Updike to know my name sake.
Official Archivist for Jazz Central Studios, MinniMN
DPA4021/SKM140/NakCM1k/ADK A51s/Countryman B3/ATes943/SPc4(och)/S'lux s502... >
TinyBox OT> PCM-M10/DR-680/R4/T+mod UA5 needs attention

Offline admkrk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1628
  • I'm an idiot
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2019, 05:58:32 PM »
... with Izotope you have to render each manipulation before you move on to the next. ...

Just open the module chain, the very first module, and add modules to your heart's content.
"the faster you go ahead, the behinder you get"

"If you can drink ram's piss, fuck, you can drink anything"

Offline Ben Turnbull

  • Don't ask me about Audacity...
  • Trade Count: (15)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8902
  • Gender: Male
  • A Clark Nova ate my lunch... Don't ask, just pee
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2019, 10:44:42 PM »
ah, you all think I'm adding one file at a time? No, I mark the entire file set as in a copy-paste move. That's what fails to "sort out" as the appending takes off.

I'm probably not using it as designed so this "fault" is likely to be expected.
Only seeing two shows a month now...
-My name is Ben, and I'm an AQhaulic ranting hysterically in my dotage ...
Read "Toward the End of Time" by Updike to know my name sake.
Official Archivist for Jazz Central Studios, MinniMN
DPA4021/SKM140/NakCM1k/ADK A51s/Countryman B3/ATes943/SPc4(och)/S'lux s502... >
TinyBox OT> PCM-M10/DR-680/R4/T+mod UA5 needs attention

Offline anr

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 359
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2019, 08:30:34 AM »
For audio, Sonic Foundry Soundforge 6. Most of the rest could learn a lot from the intuitive interface, especially Wavelab and anything by Magix. Audacity - it's free for a reason.  Each to his own!

Offline bluegrass_brad

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3360
  • Gender: Male
  • Old and in the way.
Re: Audition or Audacity?
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2019, 06:49:54 PM »
just wanted to add, and it may have already been touched on, that the Audition version found in the recent CC versions has a tool very similar to the one in Izotope called Sound Removal where you can select a sample (like a clap for instance) and it will go and remove all of them. Works very very well for getting rid of "woooooos" and claps and such. I was stoked to discover they had added that feature.
"That was back in a time when society was not quite ready for this music. Anyone remember those days? That's when punk rock was dangerous, right?  You couldn't walk into a mall and get your little pussy pierced, and your little Doc Martin boots and your crazy color for your hair.  You walk down the street with blue hair you was gonna get in a fight with about 5 angry construction workers, or the local college football team, rednecks or cops. Sometimes they kicked our ass, but you know what?  Sometimes we beat the fuck out of em"  - Mike Ness, Social Distortion

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.271 seconds with 48 queries.
© 2002-2019 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF