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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2018, 02:33:50 PM »
Thank you all. A lot to think about. Appreciate you taking the time.

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2018, 02:37:26 PM »
CD wave looks good but they don't seem to have a Mac version.

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2018, 03:39:02 PM »
I use "add label" (control-B, or command-B on mac) for each marker, and then export multiple files (of whatever format you need) based on the labels, with leading numbers to keep them in order.

This blew my mind.  All this time I've been selecting where I want the track break, then selecting everything after that point, cutting it, pasting it, and then aligning with the end of the previous track.  You just saved me several clicks per track  :coolguy:
I used to do a "SPLIT TRACK at label" which sounds like a simpler workflow for your old style, but Ctrl-B is the simplest. The best thing about not having to split the tracks is that now you have a label track which can be cut and pasted - for instance, from the original mix project to a separate project for tracking! You can make your track points, THEN remix the show and it's simple and fast.
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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2018, 02:50:58 PM »
With all your help I think Ive cracked it. I'm going to keep the talkie bits as they're integral to the show. Ive started using Wavepad to split the tracks (much more straight forward than I thought) and will then batch process the talkie bits in Ocenaudio to amplify the talkie bits. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2018, 07:23:03 PM »
With all your help I think Ive cracked it. I'm going to keep the talkie bits as they're integral to the show. Ive started using Wavepad to split the tracks (much more straight forward than I thought) and will then batch process the talkie bits in Ocenaudio to amplify the talkie bits. Fingers crossed.
I've never heard of ocenaudio until this thread, but i'd worry that there would be discontinuities in the sound level at the junctions, unless you do crossfades.
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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2018, 11:54:11 AM »
I've tried it on a couple of tracks and they seem to my ears ok. I'll look into cross fades.

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2018, 02:32:00 PM »
I've tried it on a couple of tracks and they seem to my ears ok. I'll look into cross fades.
If you make the transitions during silence, the only thing which will jump up and down is background noise. Otherwise, use cross fades to smooth the difference.
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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2018, 02:45:35 PM »
Thankyou morst

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2018, 04:34:00 PM »
You bet.
If you listen in headphones, and it's fine with you, then run with it. If it jumps around, smooth it out.


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and, come to think of it, you can hide a lot of system noise under a healthy layer of audience applause!!
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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2019, 11:32:46 PM »
Any banter more than 60 seconds gets own track.  Most banter less than 60 seconds goes at the end of the song, unless if it is an introduction to the upcoming song. 
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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2019, 07:58:12 AM »
Depending on which software you use, this can be done to tweak the sound in between the songs:

- Manually apply + volume db

If the talk between the songs has approx. the same volume then >> apply approx. the + volume db as after the first song and so on >> to the last song is fixed.

- If you recorded both songs+talk in between with comparable low volume, you might do the vice-verse...Increasing the volume of the songs instead...

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2019, 05:28:56 AM »
i always struggled with making the parts normalized to different volumes sound seamless upon playback. lots of to-the-sample-trimming and crossfading, which was frustrating and time consuming with poor results

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2019, 03:50:39 PM »
i always struggled with making the parts normalized to different volumes sound seamless upon playback. lots of to-the-sample-trimming and crossfading, which was frustrating and time consuming with poor results


Why would this occur? Normalize is not something which makes sense to run on individual tracks. Normalization is something usually applied to the entire recording at once, which simply raises the entire recording up in volume level arithmetically, until the single highest peak is at the desired level.
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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2019, 05:14:55 PM »
yes, you are better off using normalization on the entire file. But I do volume adjustments using the envelope tool independent of the normalization some time.

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Re: Talk between songs
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2019, 04:08:54 AM »
i always struggled with making the parts normalized to different volumes sound seamless upon playback. lots of to-the-sample-trimming and crossfading, which was frustrating and time consuming with poor results


Why would this occur?
electric tracks + acoustic tracks+banter+loud applause all treated differently
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