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I need some advice from open tapers...
« on: January 07, 2019, 02:04:55 PM »
I usually stealth. That's actually the only option recording concerts here in Sweden. We don't have the same culture and history with open taping as in the US. The thing is that I'm going to a huge festival this summer that actually allows recording and filming shows. I really like the idea of being more relaxed without the need of being a human microphone stand. Well, here's my concern:

1. No stands are allowed. Not even selfie sticks.
2. No dedicated space for tapers are available.
3. No seats are available.
4. I doubt I will be able to attach the mics to anything at the festival area. Not 100% sure, but that would be a challange in itself.

So, what can I do to avoid having my gear attached to my body. Scissors chairs and camping chairs are allowed though but I'm not really enjoyed by the thought of recording behind everyones back.

Any bright ideas for a open taping newbie or is it an impossible mission?

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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 02:17:41 PM »
Open taping festival in Europe? That sounds interesting. Which one is it?

As for your question, you could get a boom pole that is standing on the ground while you're holding it with your hand. Does the FoH area have a barricade? You could use a superclamp to clamp an extension pole (like the Manfrotto 099b) to it.
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2019, 02:27:04 PM »
Open taping festival in Europe? That sounds interesting. Which one is it?

As for your question, you could get a boom pole that is standing on the ground while you're holding it with your hand. Does the FoH area have a barricade? You could use a superclamp to clamp an extension pole (like the Manfrotto 099b) to it.

This is a good idea; however, use a damn good shock mount. What kind of mics will you be running?
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2019, 02:35:49 PM »
Open taping festival in Europe? That sounds interesting. Which one is it?

It's Sweden Rock Festival. They have allowed recordings for a couple of years now. Unfortunately they don't make it easy for us.

What kind of mics will you be running?

I will use Schoeps MK41Vs with active cables.
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2019, 03:01:05 PM »
You could use a superclamp to clamp an extension pole (like the Manfrotto 099b) to it.

Nice idea but they won't allow an extension pole like that. I'm actually pretty sure they would say it's a stand and not allowed. It could also be used as a weapon.
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2019, 03:30:03 PM »
Perhaps a modified pair of crutches?

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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2019, 03:49:49 PM »
I looked at some photos. That's going to be a tough nut to crack.

Perhaps have the mics mounted to a bar, then use a belt to try to strap them to one of the poles of the soundboard cover structure? If they would let you get away with it.
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2019, 03:55:53 PM »
I'm thinking. Is this a ridicilous idea? At least one stage has speakers directed to the left (and right of course). This was my positition taping (stealth) last year. Perhaps I can clamp my mics onto a gorillapod or something and hang it on the fence around the area. Last year it was at least two meters high. Not sure what the guards at the back of the fence would think though.  ???

Sorry for the ugly pic I did in Photoshop.  :lol:



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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2019, 03:59:45 PM »
^ That could actually work well as long as the sound is good there, and is probably your best bet.


Other ideas to get the mics in the sweet spot.

Walking cane.
Repurpose as hand-held mono-pod once inside.

Umbrellas allowed?
Do the same without popping it open.

Longshot-
Mascot manekin allowed?
Set one up as a stand-in stealther.. with or without a cane/umbrella.
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2019, 04:00:28 PM »
Perhaps a modified pair of crutches?

I think I can get a stand into the area. The problem is that I won't be able to use it. Guards everywhere.


Perhaps have the mics mounted to a bar, then use a belt to try to strap them to one of the poles of the soundboard cover structure? If they would let you get away with it.

I've been considering that and I really enjoy that idea. Would be a bit nervous someone would mess with my Schoeps though...
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2019, 04:05:26 PM »
Perhaps a modified pair of crutches?

I think I can get a stand into the area. The problem is that I won't be able to use it. Guards everywhere.


Perhaps have the mics mounted to a bar, then use a belt to try to strap them to one of the poles of the soundboard cover structure? If they would let you get away with it.

I've been considering that and I really enjoy that idea. Would be a bit nervous someone would mess with my Schoeps though...

I dunno.....if you get them high enough.......https://www.highshot.se/sweden-rock-festival/
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2019, 04:07:19 PM »
^ That could actually work well as long as the sound is good there, and is probably your best bet.


Other ideas to get the mics in the sweet spot.

Walking cane.
Repurpose as hand-held mono-pod once inside.

Umbrellas allowed?
Do the same without popping it open.

Longshot-
Mascot manekin allowed?
Set one up as a stand-in stealther.. with or without a cane/umbrella.

Crazy ideas but not completely impossible I guess.  :lol:

I will read more about their rules tomorrow.
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2019, 04:09:14 PM »
See if you can get a media pass?
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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2019, 04:16:30 PM »
Main stage. This is the direction of the "side stacks" and the fence I'm thinking about.

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Re: I need some advice from open tapers...
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2019, 04:20:30 PM »
I dunno.....if you get them high enough.......https://www.highshot.se/sweden-rock-festival/

Yeah, maybe. :)


See if you can get a media pass?

Not sure if photographers are allowed to bring stands. Will check that out tomorrow as well. I also believe they are restricted to the photo pit for only three songs each show.
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