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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2019, 02:18:14 AM »
..so are the mic pres and the ad conversion better than sd7xx series?



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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2019, 04:36:40 AM »
I don’t know if I could hear the difference between the mixpre6 and 744t preamps, though the new ones measure "better."

Andyjah and I did a comp of the mixpre6 and the sonosax sx-r4 a few years ago, and while some preferred one over the other and almost everyone heard a difference, the consensus was that they were in the same league. I suspect the same would happen in a mixprex vs 7XX comp as well.

In any event, I'm suspicious about people who claim "night and day" differences between professional pre-amp "sound." Transducers and placement are going to affect the sound to a significantly higher degree. As such, I'd pick a deck based on feature set. Unless you need digi in/out, the mixpre series is going to be smaller, have more channels, easier to power, and more. The 7 series is discontinued at this point and outdated tech. Unless you need digi in/out.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2019, 09:48:20 AM »
788t and 702t are current products.


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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 01:22:29 PM »
Same league? Like The Red Sox compared to the Orioles? I like my Mixpre 6 but I dont think Id go that far.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 03:19:25 PM »
Same league? Like The Red Sox compared to the Orioles? I like my Mixpre 6 but I dont think Id go that far.

https://www.sounddevices.com/products/recorders/702t/specs
https://www.sounddevices.com/products/recorders/mixpre-6/specs

The Red Sox and Orioles have played 57 times in the last 3 seasons. Boston won 36 and Baltimore 21.
2018 Boston Payroll: $240 million; 2018 Baltimore payroll: $150 million

The Sonosax was vastly more expensive with regard to the mixpre6 than the Red Sox were to the Orioles. And yet, in a double blind comparison the inexpensive deck won,

In the poll (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=184892.0), 60% preferred the file which was eventually revealed to be the mixpre6, 22.5% preferred the file which was revealed to be the Sax, and 17.5% said, "No difference or equal quality."

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 04:28:27 PM »
Same league? Like The Red Sox compared to the Orioles? I like my Mixpre 6 but I dont think Id go that far.

https://www.sounddevices.com/products/recorders/702t/specs
https://www.sounddevices.com/products/recorders/mixpre-6/specs

The Red Sox and Orioles have played 57 times in the last 3 seasons. Boston won 36 and Baltimore 21.
2018 Boston Payroll: $240 million; 2018 Baltimore payroll: $150 million

The Sonosax was vastly more expensive with regard to the mixpre6 than the Red Sox were to the Orioles. And yet, in a double blind comparison the inexpensive deck won,

In the poll (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=184892.0), 60% preferred the file which was eventually revealed to be the mixpre6, 22.5% preferred the file which was revealed to be the Sax, and 17.5% said, "No difference or equal quality."

Here's the problem:we don't listen blind.
Touche’ ! Good points. I meant the Orioles and Sox last year, but the stats you pulled up make your point completely. I didnt check out the thread, or the comp, as Im not a big fan of Phish anymore, or Garry, or Shoeps, or MSG really. I know Andy tends to run on the lighter side with more headroom, not a negative statement, but I would think to really get a grasp of the difference in the pre’s I would love to hear a comp of the two really hot as a pair of room mics or drum overheads. Just an opinion, but 100’ away in the “OTS” at msg wouldnt really prove much to me. And again, thats completely just my opinion and not trying to hack anything up. I find my mp6 to be a bit on the light side with not as much depth as my 302 or mix pre D have. I think its the Lundahl’s that Make the difference but Inhonestly cant go any deeper into that technically. The one thing I keep finding about the mp6 is the”flavor” as its called here. It tends to add “flavor” to low mids too much IMO. The other SD gear I have doesnt seem to add as much, or is just more pleasant to my ears. As far as the mp6 sounding better than the 7xx series I found a good statement I kind of agree with on GS. They comped the 744t, 788, and mp3. They rated the  744t first, 788, then mp3.
“Well... my partner said "The MixPre3 would be a great recorder for a beginner, because it makes the performance sound better than it actually is." Not a very flattering comment when judging a recorder

Basically, this recorder had noticeable "smearing" that was particularly present in the low mids. It also had this effect of "smoothing over" finger noise and other subtle transients that, for me at least, give a performance its mojo.

Were the differences huge? Let's put it this way; unless you were a trained audio pro, probably not. Would the MixPre3 suffice? Probably would do just fine for dialog recording--but for my money, I wouldn't use this recorder for professional music recording”. 
  As far as the MP’s being nicer than the RX4 I dont think I could ever really agree with them ever being in the same ballpark. Again just an opinion, but until Andy sells me his Rx4 Ill just have to wait to prove myself right or wrong. Generally speaking sonosax makes a better sounding pre-amp, hands down.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 05:06:48 PM »
The sax recorder cost thousands more than an MP6 and you will never get $3000 more in better sound quality out of that recorder.  Noah's comp proves that.  I'm not trying to split hairs, but of a lot of what sounds good to one person is personal preference. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 05:19:43 PM »
Hey Noah....  what is your impression of the 02IB compared to the MP6 pre's?

I just re-looked at your sig..  is it supposed to read 02IUB??
If so, I'm not familiar with that variation of VMS.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 05:27:01 PM »
I went from a VMS 5U to a Mixpre6 and it is a different sound, but I wouldn't say one sounds better than the other, but different.  It has been so long since I owned the VMS02ib I would have to go back and listen to recordings to comment on sound. 

Hey Noah....  what is your impression of the 02IB compared to the MP6 pre's?

I just re-looked at your sig..  is it supposed to read 02IUB??
If so, I'm not familiar with that variation of VMS.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 05:30:39 PM »
The sax recorder cost thousands more than an MP6 and you will never get $3000 more in better sound quality out of that recorder.  Noah's comp proves that.  I'm not trying to split hairs, but of a lot of what sounds good to one person is personal preference.
That whole comp thing was completely irrelevant anyway. The dude asked if the mp6 sounded better than the 7xx series.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2019, 05:33:17 PM »
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2019, 06:00:36 PM »
Hey Noah....  what is your impression of the 02IB compared to the MP6 pre's?

I just re-looked at your sig..  is it supposed to read 02IUB??
If so, I'm not familiar with that variation of VMS.

My impression is that I love it. It makes me feel good about myself and my gear to run a small, Schoeps, kcy only pre (the Schoeps VMS 02iub is the KCY only version of that gear), which integrates well into my rig. It runs forever on AA, fits in my bag perfectly, and makes my signature on ts.com even sexier that it had been before.

Basically, now that I run it, I think my (proverbial) penis is thicker and longer.  :guitarist:  :headphones: :cheers:

But this is exactly my larger point: Despite the fact that I now use the VMS for my "primary" pair of microphones, I'm skeptical that I actually hear a clear, unambiguous, better/worse difference between the mixpre6 and the VMS, or even the littlebox I used to run in its place, especially from an OTS in Madison Square Garden, etc. I might hear some subtle differences, not unlike with the mixpre6 vs. sonosax comp. The consensus there was, that, despite slight personal preference, both sources sounded similar and both very good. Furthermore, we were also listening to two different AD stages. I'm excited to run the VMS because it allows me to run two more microphones into 5/6 in a small unit.

I think what is actually going here is that owners of the 7XX, who (justifiably) love their gear, are loathe to admit that a newer, less expensive, more "pro-sumer" option might compete with their beloved "pro" gear. Conversely, owners of the Mixpre line (like me), who love their gear, are excited to own  something which competes with (beats?) more expensive gear. I can't speak for Andy, but I was relieved that I "preferred" the sound of the deck I own. (For the record, we each preferred the gear we own). But that tells me that it's more about me than the gear.

None of us listens blind. We judge "sound" not only on what our ears hear, but how our brains interpret what we hear. And our brains are affected by things like how much I paid, the brand name, who else runs this gear, how pretty the lights are, etc.

Dsatz is on record here stating that with Schoeps microphones, basically all professionally designed microphone preamplifiers have essentially the same "sound." I like the VMS for all kinds of reasons. It's "sound?" I don't know. But again it makes me happy to run it.

I think there are real reasons to buy a 744t, a Sonosax, a Nagra or a Zoom over the mixpre6. These include: size and shape, powering options, in/out options, number of channels, multiple sd card recording, brand name, resale value, metering, and much more. But none of those things are about pure "sound."

Just as in "Audiophile" circles, and "pro-sound" internet groups, tapers love to tout the "sound" of their gear in comparison with other brands. I do it too. We all do. But I'm really skeptical of claims like this:

As far as the MP’s being nicer than the RX4 I dont think I could ever really agree with them ever being in the same ballpark.... Generally speaking sonosax makes a better sounding pre-amp, hands down.

The comp we did showed definitively that when it comes to "what we do," (use expensive microphones to record PA systems from far away) the Mixpre6 and the Sonosax are indeed in the same ballpark, and, indeed, more people preferred the SD to the Sonosax. That doesn't mean that it's wrong to buy a Sonosax. It's also a great piece of gear. I listen to Andy's tapes all the time.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2019, 06:03:34 PM »
The sax recorder cost thousands more than an MP6 and you will never get $3000 more in better sound quality out of that recorder.  Noah's comp proves that.  I'm not trying to split hairs, but of a lot of what sounds good to one person is personal preference.
That whole comp thing was completely irrelevant anyway. The dude asked if the mp6 sounded better than the 7xx series.

It's not irrelevant, it's a useful analogy. It demonstrated that the mixpre6 is in the same league as much more expensive gear. It thus stands to reason, that the mixpre6 is in the same league as the 7 series, and that any audible differences will be subtle, if you can hear them at all. That's relevant.

Again, if you like the feature set of one deck over another, by all means buy the deck I don't own. It's a free country.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2019, 08:19:29 PM »
Im going to see if I can get my buddy to use his 744t this weekend and Ill run the mp6 with the same mics. See what we can come up with. Im curious too. Probably wont be from very “far away” but I think It’ll be fun to check out.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2019, 08:28:03 PM »
Im going to see if I can get my buddy to use his 744t this weekend and Ill run the mp6 with the same mics. See what we can come up with. Im curious too. Probably wont be from very “far away” but I think It’ll be fun to check out.

Perfect. Try to get both pairs into the identical configuration and as close to one another as possible. Ideally, use the same brand and length of cable, same shockmounts and windscreens as well.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2019, 08:33:35 PM »
Apologies if this has been mentioned. I did the relevant searches, which turned up nothing.

Does anyone know if the MP series puts out 5mA at P48? I have a mike that requires 5mA and is exhibiting odd behavior with a recorder that puts out 4mA.


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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2019, 10:27:48 AM »
An easy search on SD website:

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The MixPre Kashmir preamps provide full-specification phantom power (up to 10 mA at 48 V) for true condenser microphones. The combination of their high gain, low noise, low distortion Kashmir circuitry plus full specification phantom power means that the MixPre recorders require more power than recorders with lower gain, lower performance preamp topologies.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2019, 11:14:34 PM »
This got lost in the last thread but I am still looking for someone to measure the output voltage from the MX-L battery sled when one and two batteries are attached.  I would like to see if this is native 8.0-6.8v from the L series packs, 16-14v in a series or if it is knocked down to ~5v usb voltage with some sort of built in regulator. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2019, 02:36:14 PM »
This got lost in the last thread but I am still looking for someone to measure the output voltage from the MX-L battery sled when one and two batteries are attached.  I would like to see if this is native 8.0-6.8v from the L series packs, 16-14v in a series or if it is knocked down to ~5v usb voltage with some sort of built in regulator.

I measured mine last night.  The batteries are wired in parallel, allowing for hot-swaps if you're running really long takes. 

There looks to be a little compartment door held on by a screw that could feasibly house a regulator, but I didn't want to dig in too deep and potentially mess the sled up. 

The output (not under load) measured at 8.1vDC, which is the exact voltage of the higher of the two batteries.  With that battery removed, the output measures 7.9vDC, the same as that battery that's inserted.  Seams to me that it's just a parallel hardwired pass through. 

When changing sleds between the 4xAA and the Sony batts, the MX6 pops up with a message saying something along the lines of "battery voltage mismatch. Switch to Alkaline/Lithium?"  Same thing happens if you load a preset that was saved with a different battery than what's in there now.  So the device is measuring/regulating the voltages inside. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2019, 09:43:10 AM »
I'm not sure how many people check the third party sales section of TS, but there is a sale that is of interest to MixPre owners. Anker battery pacls with USB-C output for 30% off. I use this one every time and am considering grabbing a new one for festivals.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2019, 12:12:40 PM »
New firmware is up (v.3.03)...

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2019, 12:35:45 PM »
not it!
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2019, 12:38:14 PM »
^ exactly. Still running 2.x, I don't need no stinkin' preroll, hit record 20 minutes before music starts anyway...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2019, 01:17:55 PM »
Anybody know what happened to the Wingman app page on the SD website?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2019, 01:20:19 PM »
Anybody know what happened to the Wingman app page on the SD website?

I'm not sure but it wouldn't surprise me if they released an updated app to coincide with the Scorpio release.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2019, 01:26:34 PM »
Anybody know what happened to the Wingman app page on the SD website?

I'm not sure but it wouldn't surprise me if they released an updated app to coincide with the Scorpio release.

You'd think they'd leave the page up with previous releases as a marker.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2019, 03:01:31 PM »
Winman is still there under accessories but they seemed to have lost the links to it.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2019, 03:31:21 PM »
^ exactly. Still running 2.x, I don't need no stinkin' preroll, hit record 20 minutes before music starts anyway...

no need for preroll but I'm on v3.02 without issue.  the reason I went to it was the headphone preset issue which it fixed.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2019, 04:50:50 PM »
Their new website is a chaos. The specifications of the MixPre Three mention balanced line out on TA3 connectors, included 8 AA battery sled, etc.

I guess they will improve it. But I preferred the old one, it was very nicely organized.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2019, 08:49:57 PM »
Their new website is a chaos.

Yeah wtf. All their old links are broken, plus they used to have multiple old firmware versions available for download, in case there was a problem and you wanted to roll back. Now they only seem to offer the latest (3.03). But most importantly, I can no longer find instructions on HOW to update the firmware. I haven't done it for a few months and I forgot how. Googling doesn't turn anything up. Anyone have the instructions saved, or know of a link where they're still posted?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2019, 08:53:23 PM »
Their new website is a chaos.

Yeah wtf. All their old links are broken, plus they used to have multiple old firmware versions available for download, in case there was a problem and you wanted to roll back. Now they only seem to offer the latest (3.03). But most importantly, I can no longer find instructions on HOW to update the firmware. I haven't done it for a few months and I forgot how. Googling doesn't turn anything up. Anyone have the instructions saved, or know of a link where they're still posted?

I used the wayback machine from archive.org (https://web.archive.org/web/20180731054840/http://www.sounddevices.com/support/downloads/mixpres-firmware) to get this:
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Please read and follow the steps below carefully. You may want to print them before upgrading firmware.

Sound Devices recommends saving a setup file prior to loading new firmware.

Prepare to Update

Download the MixPre firmware file MixPre_2.21.zip using the link below.
From the zip archive, extract the file within named MixPre_2.21.prg file. Copy this .prg file to the root level (not within a folder) of an SD memory card that has already been formatted by the MixPre recorder.
Power the MixPre via USB-C to external DC power or via "fully charged" batteries. Do not perform the update with low batteries or unstable power sources.
Insert the SD card with the .prg file.
Power on the MixPre.
Navigate to System > Update Firmware and follow the on-screen instructions.
When the update is complete the recorder will power cycle itself. The version number MixPre_2.21 will be displayed briefly on the splash screen while booting up. A message box appears "Firmware updated successfully Version:MixPre_2.21". Tap "OK". Please note any changes or additions to the main Menu (if applicable). Consult product documentation for details.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2019, 09:40:51 PM »
they used to have multiple old firmware versions available for download, in case there was a problem and you wanted to roll back. Now they only seem to offer the latest (3.03).

um did you click "Show Previous Releases" right in the middle at the bottom of the page?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2019, 10:44:13 PM »


I used the wayback machine from archive.org (https://web.archive.org/web/20180731054840/http://www.sounddevices.com/support/downloads/mixpres-firmware) to get this:
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Thank you!

they used to have multiple old firmware versions available for download, in case there was a problem and you wanted to roll back. Now they only seem to offer the latest (3.03).

um did you click "Show Previous Releases" right in the middle at the bottom of the page?

perhaps we’re looking at different pages? the only page i can find is

https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-v3-03/

and there’s no link to previous releases that i can see.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2019, 02:11:23 AM »

perhaps we’re looking at different pages? the only page i can find is

https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-v3-03/

and there’s no link to previous releases that i can see.
Yes, as I said, confusing. Quite a chaos!

I guess someone from Sound Devices will monitor this thread.

Try main website -> Support -> Downloads -> Select product (MixPre-3) and at the bottom you have a "Show Previous Releases" offering all of them from v1.01.

Still, the new website needs a lot of work. And in my opinion the former one was really good.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2019, 04:24:06 AM »
Their new website is a chaos. The specifications of the MixPre Three mention balanced line out on TA3 connectors, included 8 AA battery sled, etc.

I guess they will improve it. But I preferred the old one, it was very nicely organized.

This is what happens when the marketing department takes over. I hate their new web site. Everything is buried deep down and you have to click several times to get the information you want.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2019, 05:55:34 AM »
This is what happens when the marketing department takes over. I hate their new web site. Everything is buried deep down and you have to click several times to get the information you want.
I hope they won't follow the path of the "Music Tribe" group (or whatever is called) that holds the prize for the stupidest and most useless pro audio websites in history.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2019, 03:23:38 AM »
Taped a show with v3.03 yesterday without any problems.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2019, 10:57:20 AM »
Taped a show with v3.03 yesterday without any problems.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2019, 11:03:24 AM »
My MP6 froze last night recording 4 tracks using v 3.03. So far I can't open the file either. I had to pull the battery to get it to shut down.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2019, 12:13:30 PM »
Damn, still using 2.21!  That sucks

My MP6 froze last night recording 4 tracks using v 3.03. So far I can't open the file either. I had to pull the battery to get it to shut down.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2019, 12:16:46 PM »
Anyone recommend a 1 foot usb c > usb c??  Doesn't need to be right angle. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2019, 12:39:47 PM »
My MP6 froze last night recording 4 tracks using v 3.03. So far I can't open the file either. I had to pull the battery to get it to shut down.

I'm on 3.02 and had a similar issue Friday night.  I hit stop so recording was saved but then I went to power it down it would not turn off.  Had to disconnect the usb then pull the battery sled (aa as backup) to get it to power down.  I forgot till this happened but I recall something similar when I first got the deck and was testing battery life.  That would have been a much earlier firmware.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2019, 03:09:59 PM »
My MP6 froze last night recording 4 tracks using v 3.03. So far I can't open the file either. I had to pull the battery to get it to shut down.

I'm on 3.02 and had a similar issue Friday night.  I hit stop so recording was saved but then I went to power it down it would not turn off.  Had to disconnect the usb then pull the battery sled (aa as backup) to get it to power down.  I forgot till this happened but I recall something similar when I first got the deck and was testing battery life.  That would have been a much earlier firmware.

I did figure out how to get it to open in Wave Agent and thankfully the whole recording is there! The meters and deck seized up, but it still kept recording.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2019, 10:14:41 AM »
With the Anker batteries recommended by Sound devices does the usb c insert completely into the jack.  On mine it doesn't there is some of the metal usb c part that sticks out.  I'm thinking that shouldn't be happening.  On another usb c battery I have the cable sets fully inserted, but that battery doesn't get a green light with the mixpre6.  Thanks
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2019, 11:19:50 AM »
With the Anker batteries recommended by Sound devices does the usb c insert completely into the jack.  On mine it doesn't there is some of the metal usb c part that sticks out.  I'm thinking that shouldn't be happening.  On another usb c battery I have the cable sets fully inserted, but that battery doesn't get a green light with the mixpre6.  Thanks

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2019, 08:24:27 AM »
Anyone recommend a 1 foot usb c > usb c??  Doesn't need to be right angle.

A little shorter than a foot....but this is the one I have been using....

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2019, 11:19:05 PM »
Their new website is a chaos. The specifications of the MixPre Three mention balanced line out on TA3 connectors, included 8 AA battery sled, etc.

I guess they will improve it. But I preferred the old one, it was very nicely organized.

Sounds like they're getting it mixed up with the MixPre10T which has those specs.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2019, 01:11:37 AM »
With the Anker batteries recommended by Sound devices does the usb c insert completely into the jack.  On mine it doesn't there is some of the metal usb c part that sticks out.  I'm thinking that shouldn't be happening.  On another usb c battery I have the cable sets fully inserted, but that battery doesn't get a green light with the mixpre6.  Thanks

That happened with mine too. At first it worked fine, but later on I had a few shows where it came loose and was only running on the AA's (which nearly ran out of juice). It never really came loose on the MP6 side, but it did on the battery side. I regulated that battery to phone duty.

I switched to this battery and it's been flawless. Cable goes in all the way. Plenty of power. I switched to another cable, but it was just one I had lying around.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2019, 07:57:49 AM »
I switched to this battery and it's been flawless. Cable goes in all the way. Plenty of power. I switched to another cable, but it was just one I had lying around.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XTRJJRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2019, 09:14:24 AM »
Same problem I had with mine!!  Time for a new battery.  Thanks

With the Anker batteries recommended by Sound devices does the usb c insert completely into the jack.  On mine it doesn't there is some of the metal usb c part that sticks out.  I'm thinking that shouldn't be happening.  On another usb c battery I have the cable sets fully inserted, but that battery doesn't get a green light with the mixpre6.  Thanks

That happened with mine too. At first it worked fine, but later on I had a few shows where it came loose and was only running on the AA's (which nearly ran out of juice). It never really came loose on the MP6 side, but it did on the battery side. I regulated that battery to phone duty.

I switched to this battery and it's been flawless. Cable goes in all the way. Plenty of power. I switched to another cable, but it was just one I had lying around.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XTRJJRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2019, 09:16:20 AM »
same
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2019, 10:48:11 AM »
I switched to this battery and it's been flawless. Cable goes in all the way. Plenty of power. I switched to another cable, but it was just one I had lying around.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XTRJJRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's the one I use.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2019, 04:04:49 PM »
Thanks grabbed a few of those after borrowing one of Gordon's and it performed great!!  Much smaller and ligher as well.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2019, 04:59:24 PM »
^ same battery everyone is referring to!!
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2019, 09:34:23 PM »
^ same battery everyone is referring to!!

Funny,  wasn't really reading all the posts.  Nice to see peeps having good luck with them.  No one likes to waste money.  Ed
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2019, 02:32:51 PM »
Joined the MixPre-6 team. I am spending more and taping less these days. This hobby sucks.  ;D
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2019, 02:34:34 PM »
Joined the MixPre-6 team. I am spending more and taping less these days. This hobby sucks.  ;D

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2019, 08:11:54 PM »
I make myself tape more when i get new shit!
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2019, 08:33:54 PM »
Me too.
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2019, 12:03:56 PM »
I make myself tape more when i get new shit!

Of course I now *need* to buy an FP-24 to run a third set of SDCs in the mixpre6...

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2019, 01:35:20 PM »
Perfect - I need to sell an FP-24 to help fund my MP-6 purchase!

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #63 on: May 01, 2019, 04:09:29 PM »
Last night was the first time the MixPre-6 let me down. Took it and 8 freshly charged NiMH batteries to a show. After about an hour, it shut down due to low battery. I guess I need to run some tests now to see whether this was a one-off incident or if one of my batteries is dead.
Long story short: better also run a USB battery pack next time as a backup. On the bright side, the show I taped pretty much sucked, so not much is lost.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #64 on: May 01, 2019, 04:13:10 PM »
Last night was the first time the MixPre-6 let me down. Took it and 8 freshly charged NiMH batteries to a show. After about an hour, it shut down due to low battery. I guess I need to run some tests now to see whether this was a one-off incident or if one of my batteries is dead.
Long story short: better also run a USB battery pack next time as a backup. On the bright side, the show I taped pretty much sucked, so not much is lost.

I've evolved to not trust AA batteries. I never run without the back-up.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #65 on: May 01, 2019, 09:38:45 PM »
Last night was the first time the MixPre-6 let me down. Took it and 8 freshly charged NiMH batteries to a show. After about an hour, it shut down due to low battery. I guess I need to run some tests now to see whether this was a one-off incident or if one of my batteries is dead.
Long story short: better also run a USB battery pack next time as a backup. On the bright side, the show I taped pretty much sucked, so not much is lost.

Neither my MixPre 3 or 6 has ever had a AA battery in them. I only use the Anker USB-C battery and can easily get 2 full 2-set shows off a single charge with a couple hours of power time left. I do have a pair of the Sony style batteries, but never bought the adapter for them.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2019, 04:41:25 PM »
I've evolved to not trust AA batteries. I never run without the back-up.

After having a similar experience where a fairly new set of 8xAA's croaked with less than an hour runtime, I also switched over to a USB cell for regular duty. RAVPower RP-PB19 in case anyone cares.
But I leave a set of 4 AA's on the back of my MP-6 as a backup (good for times when I forget to plug in the USB cell until after powering up!), and recharge them about once a month or so.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #67 on: May 03, 2019, 04:45:13 PM »
I've evolved to not trust AA batteries. I never run without the back-up.

After having a similar experience where a fairly new set of 8xAA's croaked with less than an hour runtime, I also switched over to a USB cell for regular duty. RAVPower RP-PB19 in case anyone cares.
But I leave a set of 4 AA's on the back of my MP-6 as a backup (good for times when I forget to plug in the USB cell until after powering up!), and recharge them about once a month or so.

Do you just use the stock Y cable that came with the unit for this battery pack? I have one of these and never tried it but if it works, it could be good as a backup.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #68 on: May 03, 2019, 06:20:51 PM »
I've evolved to not trust AA batteries. I never run without the back-up.

After having a similar experience where a fairly new set of 8xAA's croaked with less than an hour runtime, I also switched over to a USB cell for regular duty. RAVPower RP-PB19 in case anyone cares.
But I leave a set of 4 AA's on the back of my MP-6 as a backup (good for times when I forget to plug in the USB cell until after powering up!), and recharge them about once a month or so.

Do you just use the stock Y cable that came with the unit for this battery pack? I have one of these and never tried it but if it works, it could be good as a backup.

You just need a usb-c male to male cable, the shorter the better.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #69 on: May 03, 2019, 07:06:18 PM »
^ yuppers
Also, the y cable has 1 more plug to mess up, and has been implicated in much weirdness.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #70 on: May 03, 2019, 08:21:29 PM »
That power bank doesn't have a USB C port though, only micro USB and normal USB.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #71 on: May 03, 2019, 08:35:15 PM »
The whole power thing has been revisited several times. Rwad the earlier parts of this thread and the mixpre power battery thread.

Summary

Don't use the y cable

If you want/insist on using a USB battery that doesnt have a USB-C output, understanding cables becomes important

The easiest battery to use ia USB-C battery and USB-c cable.

Eneloop AAs will get that 8 battery sled up to 3-5 hours
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #72 on: May 03, 2019, 10:07:32 PM »
The whole power thing has been revisited several times. Rwad the earlier parts of this thread and the mixpre power battery thread.

Summary

Don't use the y cable

If you want/insist on using a USB battery that doesnt have a USB-C output, understanding cables becomes important

The easiest battery to use ia USB-C battery and USB-c cable.

Eneloop AAs will get that 8 battery sled up to 3-5 hours

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #73 on: May 03, 2019, 10:42:25 PM »
I have two of the Anker batteries that SD recommends. I was curious on how the other poster got the other battery (that I just happen to have lying around) to work.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2019, 03:30:40 AM »
You just need a usb-c male to male cable, the shorter the better.

Bingo!
Doesn't get me full power, but I'm only running 2 channels of phantom, so works for my need.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #75 on: May 04, 2019, 07:54:00 AM »
You just need a usb-c male to male cable, the shorter the better.

Bingo!
Doesn't get me full power, but I'm only running 2 channels of phantom, so works for my need.

If you can, get a USB battery pack that has USB-c output. With a USB-c to USB-c cable, I get 12 hours of full power on my MixPre 6 using 2 channels of phantom.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2019, 01:23:39 PM »
Is the consensus that 3.03 is stable for "what we do?" I'm still on 2.21 and was going to update, but wanted to check first...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2019, 11:41:38 AM »
I'm on 3.02 and as long as you don't use pre-roll it's fine.  I have no use for pre-roll and haven't tested but have seen reports of issues.....
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 6
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2019, 12:06:24 PM »
I'm on 3.02 and as long as you don't use pre-roll it's fine.  I have no use for pre-roll and haven't tested but have seen reports of issues.....

I had issues with pre-roll creating a small gap between files, so I reverted to 3.02 and have had no problems.
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