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Roland R-07, Part 2
« on: February 28, 2019, 04:13:06 PM »
It is time for a new thread, Part 2:

Here is the first thread: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=184906.0
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2019, 04:30:06 PM »

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2019, 10:57:46 PM »
hey dallman your link at end of other thread is bunk and prompts a post window
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2019, 05:08:17 AM »
Cool. Nice that it became so popular.

Tried to change the subject in the old thread to 'Roland R-07, Part 1' but it seems like it's allready locked.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2019, 03:21:18 PM »
hey dallman your link at end of other thread is bunk and prompts a post window

That link work fine for me.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2019, 08:45:09 AM »
hey dallman your link at end of other thread is bunk and prompts a post window

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2019, 02:09:30 AM »
just reread last thread top to bottom

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2019, 03:39:06 AM »
Hello,
Looking for some advise on gain level for a loud concert using the Roland R-07.
First time using Roland R-07 and I don’t want to be messing about with the gain level when the show starts!
I will be using SP-CMC-4U microphones with 9V battery box.
So thought I’d ask what level people have found they need to use at shows they’ve recorded with the Roland R-07 and mics similar to SP-CMC-4U’s, also with the gain level you use what are the highest/loudest peaks you’re getting eg. -12 or -6 or 0dB ?
Any help appreciated!
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2019, 07:25:36 AM »
if yoi dont want to be messing with levels during the show you dont want to be anywhere near 0dB

id recommend using the app
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2019, 08:10:52 AM »
That’s why I’m interested to know what gain/level people have found the Roland R-07 will give max peaks around -12 to -6 dB.
I know there will be varying factors, like people who have used different mics to the SP-CMC-4U (low sense modded) with 9v battery box, but I think similar mics which have also been used with the Roland R-07 would have similar peak results using similar gain levels?
Yes the Bluetooth remote app works well to control the Roland R-07 gain level with your phone while the Roland is in your pocket, I just don’t want to be having to change the gain level during the show.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2019, 08:48:40 AM »
kinda impossible to give you a straight answer even if they know the sensitivity of your mics, because all shows arent equally loud. id start at an input level of 20. thats the advantage of 24-bit you have a lot of room on setting levels. as long as it peaks above 20 you wont have audible noise.

if you want to be more brave and closer to 0db just use the safety track feature first time out
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2019, 09:55:45 AM »
I don’t want to use the “safety” dual level recording function, the Roland R-07 FAQ on their website indicates it uses a limiter even if you have limiter switched off.... I haven’t really looked into it to see if it’s both files or just one of them that the ‘normal non hybrid’ limiter is used on, but I’d rather just have all limiters off and manually adjust the gain level myself.
Here’s some stuff from the Roland R-07 FAQ page.

Q:When does the Hybrid Limiter function operate?
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The Hybrid Limiter function on the R-07 operates under the following conditions.

"Limiter": ON
"Input Level": 60 or higher

* The Hybrid Limiter function does not operate when Rec Mode is set to "2xWAV (Dual Level Recording)."
* When the Limiter is ON and the Input Level is 59 or lower, or whenever the Dual Level Recording is being engaged, the normal (non-Hybrid) limiter will be activated.
* For more details about the Limiter function and its settings, refer to the Reference Guide (p. 16), "Using Limiter or AGC."

Q:What is dual level recording?
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This is a function that lets you simultaneously create two files at different recording levels.
A backup file at a low recording level is also recorded as a safeguard just in case clipping occurs.
Specifically, recording with 2xWAV-16 bit or 2xWAV-24 bit selected for Rec Mode lets you simultaneous record at the specified input level and at an input level approximately 20 dB lower than that input level.
This setting is recommended when the possibility exists that the recorded audio might be distorted if the volume level becomes too high during actual recording, even when the input level has been set. When you record, two files are created.

Example:When the file name is R07_0010.WAV
R07_0010.WAV   :Recorded at the specified input level
R07_0010L.WAV   :Recorded at an input level approximately 20 dB lower than the specified level

Q:The input level cannot be set to any value from "1" to "41."
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When Rec Mode is set to 2xWAV-16 bit or 2xWAV-24 bit, the settable range for the input level is 0 or a value from 42 to 100.
Also, when you're recording using 2xWAV, a file is automatically created at an input level whose value is lower than the specified input level.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2019, 03:41:51 PM »
well theres one way to find out where to set them.. ;)

is there an opening act? i often use those to dial in a bit
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2019, 05:26:38 PM »
No opening band so unable to set levels that way.
OK here’s a serious question about something I realised tonight about the Roland R-07, but I don’t know if it’s odd or not?, I think people here might have an idea of what’s happening?
I had earphones plugged into the Roland R-07 sitting in a quiet room with a television on quietly in the background, I was recording with the Roland R-07 and turning the gain level up and down, when you press the gain level up or down you can hear a quiet pop/click sound each time you press the gain button, I started to notice a bunch of times when setting the gain level up from 59 to 60 and down from 60 to 59 the click/pop is more obvious than all the other clicks, it just sounds like a bigger louder click/pop.
This bigger/louder click/pop is exactly at the gain level (59-60) that the Roland R-07 FAQ indicates the Roland R-07 will switch from ‘normal limiter’ to ‘hybrid limiter’ (that info can be seen in my last post).
However I have limiters set to OFF, so my question is why would the louder click/pop happen to appear exactly when changing the levels from 59-60 exactly where the ‘normal limiter’ changes to ‘hybrid limiter’?, does this seem normal even though I have limiter OFF?
It might just be total co-incidence and have nothing to do with the limiter?, or maybe it is related to the limiter and there’s a technical reason there’s a bigger/louder click/pop right at that point? (even though the limiter is in fact switched off).
SURELY IT WOULDN’T REALLY BE LIMITING WHEN I HAVE LIMITER SWITCHED OFF?
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2019, 08:33:14 PM »
OK here’s a serious question about something I realised tonight about the Roland R-07, but I don’t know if it’s odd or not?, I think people here might have an idea of what’s happening?
I had earphones plugged into the Roland R-07 sitting in a quiet room with a television on quietly in the background, I was recording with the Roland R-07 and turning the gain level up and down, when you press the gain level up or down you can hear a quiet pop/click sound each time you press the gain button, I started to notice a bunch of times when setting the gain level up from 59 to 60 and down from 60 to 59 the click/pop is more obvious than all the other clicks, it just sounds like a bigger louder click/pop.

the zipper on volume adjsutments is covered pretty extensively in the first thread, as is the fact that noise level goes up substantially at high input levels. note i also noted it was doing some kind of internal switching right at 60

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=184906.msg2266864#msg2266864

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2019, 12:13:50 AM »
Hey,
Yes I already read all 29 pages 2 weeks ago, I remember the posts about the ticks but didn’t remember you writing about circuits possibly switching right at 60 level, interesting you also noticed this sound I knew I was definitely hearing something different there....
So what do you mean by ‘switching circuits’ ?, does that have something to do with the limiters?, I take it that the limiter is not being used (even though I can hear that louder pop at level 60 with limiter OFF) and everything is OK?
Thanks for the info.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2019, 12:46:03 AM »
i just noticed that it was quieter from 60-70 input level than it was from 40-50, as if it switched internally from some line-in to some mic-in circuit or something

take those tests with a grain of salt the input setup wasnt super representative IIRC, wasnt measured wth a known impedance or anything
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R-07 Firmware v1.100 and remote app update
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2019, 03:23:13 AM »
R-07 Firmware update

I just noticed an Roland remote app update on my iPhone, and checked to see if the firmware was updated as well:
https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/r-07/updates_drivers/

Firmware is updated to Ver.1.100
There are added quite a number of new features as well as some fixes.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2019, 04:42:04 AM »
UPDATE HISTORY
[ Ver.1.100 ] MAR 2019
Additional Functions
Please refer to the "Functions Added in R-07 System Program Ver.1.10" for detailed information in the [ Owner's Manuals ].
R-07 itself

    You can connect the R-07 via USB to your computer, iPhone, or iPad, and use it as a USB audio interface.
    Supported operating systems are as follows.
    Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10
    OS X 10.10, OS X 10.11, macOS 10.12, macOS 10.13, macOS 10.14
    iOS 11, iOS 12

    * Only Sample Rate "44.1 kHz / 48.0 kHz" is supported.
    * It does not support Android.
    If "Recording mode" is set to 2xWAV (Dual level recording), you can adjust the volume of the quieter recording.
    The name of the CODEC on the connected Bluetooth A2DP device is now displayed on the Bluetooth/Information screen.

R-07 Remote

    By operating an "R-07 Remote" app installed on your mobile device, you can simultaneously control up to four R-07 units.
    You can also start recording on multiple R-07 units simultaneously.
    You can perform playback operations from an Apple Watch.


Functionality Improvements
R-07 Remote

    Operation from an Apple Watch even while the iPhone is in sleep mode is now possible.
    Connectivity between the R-07 and R-07 Remote has been improved.


Bug Fixes
The following bugs were fixed.
R-07 itself

    Transfer speed when connected via USB sometimes grows slow.
    The rehearsal function fails to work when the Rec Mode is set to "2xWAV (Dual level recording)."


< If You're Using R-07 Remote >
Using the new functionality in R-07 Remote requires updating the R-07 Remote app.
iOS version
Use R-07 Remote when updated to version 1.1.2 or later.
* R-07 Remote version 1.1.2 can be used under iOS 11 and after.

Android version
Use R-07 Remote when updated to version 1.1.2 or later.
* R-07 Remote version 1.1.2 can be used under Android 5 and after.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2019, 05:07:33 AM »
By operating an "R-07 Remote" app installed on your mobile device, you can simultaneously control up to four R-07 units.

This is an interesting development.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2019, 05:30:23 AM »
By operating an "R-07 Remote" app installed on your mobile device, you can simultaneously control up to four R-07 units.
This is an interesting development.

This appears to be functionality primarily implemented in the mobile APP, but seemingly a significant development effort, so I guess there must be a demand.
I personally don't really see how this will come in handy, so it is obviously not done to please me :)

What kind of use-cases do you think this could be useful?
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2019, 06:35:52 AM »
By operating an "R-07 Remote" app installed on your mobile device, you can simultaneously control up to four R-07 units.
This is an interesting development.

This appears to be functionality primarily implemented in the mobile APP, but seemingly a significant development effort, so I guess there must be a demand.
I personally don't really see how this will come in handy, so it is obviously not done to please me :)

What kind of use-cases do you think this could be useful?

I’m thinking of doing some matrix or ‘backup’ type recordings this summer - one set of Cards and one set of Omnis. This kind of feature (if I had 2 R-07s) would make setting levels easier.

Also if you were open recording two separate rigs in different locations at a venue, I’d think this would make it much easier to manage.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2019, 06:58:08 AM »

I’m thinking of doing some matrix or ‘backup’ type recordings this summer - one set of Cards and one set of Omnis. This kind of feature (if I had 2 R-07s) would make setting levels easier.

Also if you were open recording two separate rigs in different locations at a venue, I’d think this would make it much easier to manage.

Thanks! I can see how this could be useful.

Videographers often put a Lav attached to a recorder in the pocket of the talents (at weddings for example) and sync in post, and I initially thought it could be useful to control levels on several recorders, but I imagine the reach of Bluetooth will limit the usability to mostly stationary situations.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2019, 07:57:10 AM »
Yesterday I've tried the new version "on the field" and it was all ok. Disconnection (android smartphone) after putting smartphone in stand-by is not fixed yet, but workaround described in this thread is ok also with new fw.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2019, 08:20:57 PM »
I still can't walk away 10 feet from the soundboard at a busy nightclub without the recorder's bluetooth from disconnecting from my phone.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2019, 08:30:54 PM »
I still can't walk away 10 feet from the soundboard at a busy nightclub without the recorder's bluetooth from disconnecting from my phone.

thats unfortunate. even the lowest bluetooth spec should be good to 33 feet. 2.0 to 100 feet
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2019, 10:13:07 PM »
i own 3 R-07's and have just updated the firmware on all of them and am playing around with the link feature. this seems like it will be very cool. has anyone figured out a way to change the name of the particular R-07 in the app (the list of (Bluetooth MIDI Devices')? they all show up as 'Roland R-07 MIDI', which is going to get rather confusing if you're using multiple units at the same time and they're all named the same. it would be helpful to be able to change the name to reflect the use case for that individual unit.

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Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2019, 03:26:59 AM »
Are still the lights unmanageable in menu?



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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2019, 01:53:27 AM »
Hello,
Looking for some advise on gain level for a loud concert using the Roland R-07.
First time using Roland R-07 and I don’t want to be messing about with the gain level when the show starts!
[snip]

Here's how I get a rough sense of how to set gain on a new deck:

Set up my mics in front of a living room speaker, connect a recorder I'm used to running, hit record and set gain to roughly what I'd use at the type of show to be recorded. Turn up living room stereo's volume until I'm seeing levels that I like. Pause playback.

Connect new recorder to mics without changing their position and start recording. Unpause the stereo's playback, and adjust gain to levels I like.

I tend to reduce gain a bit after that, to ensure first run doesn't come close to overloading.

Not perfect, but works well enough.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2019, 03:05:26 AM »
Compare with Sony M10 and Roland R05, the highest gain level of Roland R07 is lower.  Does it also has a hidden menu like Roland R05?  Another problem is r07 will reduce the gain level when use plug-in mic.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2019, 04:57:24 AM »
Compare with Sony M10 and Roland R05, the highest gain level of Roland R07 is lower.  Does it also has a hidden menu like Roland R05?  Another problem is r07 will reduce the gain level when use plug-in mic.

What do you mean a problem is Roland R-07 will reduce the gain level when using a plug in mic?
I think you mean the built in mic will be louder than plug in mics if recording the same concert?

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2019, 06:57:58 AM »
Hello,
Looking for some advise on gain level for a loud concert using the Roland R-07.
First time using Roland R-07 and I don’t want to be messing about with the gain level when the show starts!
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Here's how I get a rough sense of how to set gain on a new deck:

Set up my mics in front of a living room speaker, connect a recorder I'm used to running, hit record and set gain to roughly what I'd use at the type of show to be recorded. Turn up living room stereo's volume until I'm seeing levels that I like. Pause playback.

Connect new recorder to mics without changing their position and start recording. Unpause the stereo's playback, and adjust gain to levels I like.

I tend to reduce gain a bit after that, to ensure first run doesn't come close to overloading.

Not perfect, but works well enough.

Good idea, but I haven’t recorded for many years and no longer have any recorders I’ve used in the past.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2019, 07:40:58 AM »
I discovered that, when powered via USB, the red recording lights, dissapear.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2019, 10:43:07 AM »
I discovered that, when powered via USB, the red recording lights, dissapear.
I can't reproduce that, except when I record via the R-07 as audio interface connected to a PC. If the device is just getting power from the PC or USB connected battery, the lights still shows. What is your setup?
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2019, 12:25:09 PM »
I discovered that, when powered via USB, the red recording lights, dissapear.
I can't reproduce that, except when I record via the R-07 as audio interface connected to a PC. If the device is just getting power from the PC or USB connected battery, the lights still shows. What is your setup?

Do you have batteries installed. Remove them from the unit. And operate with the app to start recording.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2019, 12:54:11 PM »
I discovered that, when powered via USB, the red recording lights, dissapear.
I can't reproduce that, except when I record via the R-07 as audio interface connected to a PC. If the device is just getting power from the PC or USB connected battery, the lights still shows. What is your setup?

Do you have batteries installed. Remove them from the unit. And operate with the app to start recording.
Just tried that. No batteries in the unit. Power from USB battery. Still lights regardless of app control or direct control. I’m running latest firmware.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 08:09:26 AM »
Ok, is not a battery matter. To turn off the recording lights and bluetooth (did´t tried with the peak one), , all you have to do is Menu/ 7 Display/ Indicator>>POWER SAVE.

After 10 seconds, ALL the lights are off.

If you use remote control, you will have only the bluetooth blue one, then, after 10 seconds (or the time you choose to turn off the screen in the R07) will turn off, and when you press record in the app, there is no lights.


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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 10:41:17 AM »
.... all you have to do is Menu/ 7 Display/ Indicator>>POWER SAVE.


Wow, yes you are right. That does the trick!

The Menu->7 Display->Display Timer value will define how long ALL lights are on when Indicator: Power Save is engaged.
I have set mine to minimum (2 sec) and all lights turn off after 2 seconds.
Lights turns on again (for 2 seconds) when a you press a button on the device, but not if you use the remote app as you correctly note.

Thanks for identifying that!
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