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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2019, 06:37:35 AM »
Recorded a moderately loud show this weekend (think overhanging line array speakers like you get at big venues and festivals)

Sounds Professionals Cardioid mics into CA-Ugly battery box into the R-07. I taped A-B configuration about 15-20 feet from the array, which was about 15 feet up.

I had the R-07 running at an input of 35 and it gave me a nice clean, dynamic recording with plenty of headroom and no colourisation of the sound. Loud parts were clear with no distortion and more subtle parts still had definition and detail.

At 35 it meant that close clapping which was picked up louder than the music could be brought down in post editing without any clipping.

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Re: Printing rubbing off on your R-07?
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2019, 04:00:14 PM »

I notice the printing is already rubbing off on the front on my R-07 (MENU, MARK etc are almost gone) - which I bought in October last year.
I've babied it and everything else looks pristine, so it bothers me a bit.
Anyone with the same experience?
yup, worn almost instantly on mine
Thanks for the heads up.
It bothered me enough to return it to the shop yesterday, to have it fixed under warranty. Roland will probably just replace the front panel and the problem will show up again, we'll see.

Just to wrap this up. Roland didn't fix the problem in due time (according to local consumer laws) so the shop had to give me a full refund. Since I don't know if Roland has improved their printing in later production, I guess I'll be looking for a different recorder.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2019, 04:31:03 PM »

**I’m thinking it’s probably fragmented, I’ve been deleting bits and pieces here and there... I’ll delete everything and format the card and hopefully will be OK for the important show tonight.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2019, 02:47:40 PM »
Recorded a VERY loud (100db) show this weekend. 20-25ft from speaker, which was about 15-20 feet up.

Card mics into CA battery box. Setting at 22 did the job.

So: loud-ish concert/indoor venue  = 30 to 35

Very loud = 20 to 25
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2019, 12:29:31 AM »

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2019, 01:44:23 AM »
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2019, 04:00:48 PM »
I'll be getting an R-07 tomorrow and would like to record with it soon thereafter.  If I run AT853s (cards, 4.7k mod) > CA9100 > R-07 at an outdoor show ~15 yards in front of one of the stacks for a country rock band that plays at medium/average volume, what would be a good gain setting to start with?  Thanks!
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2019, 04:11:07 PM »
I'll be getting an R-07 tomorrow and would like to record with it soon thereafter.  If I run AT853s (cards, 4.7k mod) > CA9100 > R-07 at an outdoor show ~15 yards in front of one of the stacks for a country rock band that plays at medium/average volume, what would be a good gain setting to start with?  Thanks!

With Schoeps caps and a Naiant IPA, I'd start at 32ish. Not sure how that relates to ATs...
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2019, 08:58:22 AM »
I'll be getting an R-07 tomorrow and would like to record with it soon thereafter.  If I run AT853s (cards, 4.7k mod) > CA9100 > R-07 at an outdoor show ~15 yards in front of one of the stacks for a country rock band that plays at medium/average volume, what would be a good gain setting to start with?  Thanks!

Depends where you set the CA9100 but similar to the above post I’d start at around 30 and adjust from there assuming you’re fairly neutral on the 9100.

Despite some criticism I actually think this is a fantastic little recorder once you get it set up correctly and used to it.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2019, 11:50:10 AM »
Thanks to those who responded to my original post.

So I did some experimenting with the levels before actually recording a show.  I started out with the CA-9100 set at about half way, but found that even with the R-07 cranked way up (50-60), the signal seemed kind of weak and the resultant volume was too low.  So for the show, I settled on starting out with the CA-9100 turned up to about 4/5 of the way to the max and set the R-07 level at 32.  It was an outdoor show where I ran AT853s w/ foam screens inside a Kangol and was around 20-25 yards from the stage dead center.  During the show, I checked levels with my iPhone, and noticed I was consistently pegging close to (and sometimes above) 3, so I started dialing the level down and ended up in the high teens in order to keep it pegging at around 12.  The audio turned out really nice.
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2019, 01:50:25 PM »
I would use the CA 9100 to dial up or down..setting the A10 to 32 and the CA 9100 to 11 o'clock, at 11 the CA 9100 functions as a battery box....in addition I use the phone and and an app to check levels before the show...most of the times the music of the PA....pending on the type of music I do have a good "start" point to set levels on athe A10 or any ofther of my deveicesdevice....or I'll ask the guy at the board what to expect below a 100db or above...that also helps me to set levels....even with no music going and only people talking around me.

Hope it makes any sense at all what I wrote...

Thanks to those who responded to my original post.

So I did some experimenting with the levels before actually recording a show.  I started out with the CA-9100 set at about half way, but found that even with the R-07 cranked way up (50-60), the signal seemed kind of weak and the resultant volume was too low.  So for the show, I settled on starting out with the CA-9100 turned up to about 4/5 of the way to the max and set the R-07 level at 32.  It was an outdoor show where I ran AT853s w/ foam screens inside a Kangol and was around 20-25 yards from the stage dead center.  During the show, I checked levels with my iPhone, and noticed I was consistently pegging close to (and sometimes above) 3, so I started dialing the level down and ended up in the high teens in order to keep it pegging at around 12.  The audio turned out really nice.

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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2019, 05:17:38 PM »
I would use the CA 9100 to dial up or down..setting the A10 to 32 and the CA 9100 to 11 o'clock, at 11 the CA 9100 functions as a battery box...

Unfortunately, the knob fell off of my CA-9100 years ago, so I don't know where 11 o'clock is on it.  Based of a scale of off being zero and turned up to the max being 10, where would you estimate 11 o'clock to be  on the CA-9100?
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2019, 09:57:59 PM »
If I’m thinking the same as him, 0=7 o’clock, 10=5 o’clock, so 11 o’clock would be about 40%?
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Re: Roland R-07, Part 2
« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2019, 01:11:42 AM »
I have a R-07 and so does my friend. We were at a show tonight, sitting near each other and we had both recorders show up on our mobile remote apps and they were named the same (R-07 Midi). Would anyone have any experience with this and can the recorders be re-named so as to differentiate between them when you open the app on your phone? I could basically control his R-07 and he mine from the app. Very concerning.
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