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Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 (edit: mostly about ZS100 though)
« on: March 01, 2019, 10:17:07 AM »
Anyone have this?

The reviews say it's a fairly big upgrade over the ZS100 - to include the ability to 4K clips for up to 45 mins (and Full HD clips for 50 mins), and bit rates top out at 100 Mbps.

One of the reviews listed some video samples, and I noticed the clip suffered the same focus issue that I had when I owned my last Panasonic Lumix cam, which is that it briefly goes out of focus when you zoom in/out.  You can see that in this clip at around the ten second mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbj8dkg0dE

I really want a point-and-shoot that can film in 4K.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2019, 07:41:44 AM by guitard »
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2019, 03:37:30 PM »
I've had this cam for 10 months now. Amazing camera, but worse quality in very low light than the ZS100. Still an amazing upgrade as the zoom has been increased alot. Still sucks that Panasonic crops more in 4k, but at least that gives more zoom and therefore makes the I. Zoom mostly obsolete.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2019, 09:48:39 PM »
I've read conflicting reports about the recording length in 4K.  Some say it's 15 minutes, but others say it's longer.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2019, 12:31:53 AM »
I've read conflicting reports about the recording length in 4K.  Some say it's 15 minutes, but others say it's longer.

The ZS200 is not as good in low light as the ZS100.
There is a very easy hack to get unlimited video from the ZS100. Shoot until the battery dies.
I have hundreds of hours of 90+ minutes single files. It has never overheated or caused an issue.
The only concern now is the less than 2 hour battery life.

Just about every video here for the past 2 years is with Multiple ZS100's - https://www.youtube.com/user/datflys
In the past 6 months I also used GoPro 5 a few times & now use DJI Pocket Osmo for stage use.
It's freaking amazing.  It's small & compact & tracks the performer. - Sample - https://youtu.be/jn3mlQBbU-Y?t=168
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2019, 12:42:39 PM »
I also used GoPro 5 a few times & now use DJI Pocket Osmo for stage use.
It's freaking amazing.  It's small & compact & tracks the performer. - Sample - https://youtu.be/jn3mlQBbU-Y?t=168

Is that the Osmo on a stand next to the stage monitor that's about knee high with Tab?  I assume you go into pro mode and adjust your settings.  What settings did you use (in particular I'm curious about exposure)?  Is any of this footage shot with the ZS100?  Does the ZS100 have any issues with "searching" for a split second and going out of focus when you zoom in or out?  And is the video hack good for unlimited 4K? 
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2019, 01:54:28 PM »
I also used GoPro 5 a few times & now use DJI Pocket Osmo for stage use.
It's freaking amazing.  It's small & compact & tracks the performer. - Sample - https://youtu.be/jn3mlQBbU-Y?t=168

Is that the Osmo on a stand next to the stage monitor that's about knee high with Tab?  I assume you go into pro mode and adjust your settings.  What settings did you use (in particular I'm curious about exposure)?  Is any of this footage shot with the ZS100?  Does the ZS100 have any issues with "searching" for a split second and going out of focus when you zoom in or out?  And is the video hack good for unlimited 4K?

That is the osmo on the stand. Yes, Pro Mode.
This footage is shot with 3 ZS100's - 1 Osmo & A Sony 4K (not mine) mounted on a pole.
I set the Osmo ISO at 200 & adjust SS for exposure.

My only issue is trying to get the color to match the ZS100's - The osmo has more natural color capture & the ZS100's colors are more saturated.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2019, 02:42:17 PM »
This footage is shot with 3 ZS100's

I see you're filming in 4K.  So what about the recording limit hack for the ZS100 - are all your ZS100 clips limited to 15 minutes, or were you able to hack the cams to film longer clips in 4K?
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2019, 03:35:13 PM »
This footage is shot with 3 ZS100's

I see you're filming in 4K.  So what about the recording limit hack for the ZS100 - are all your ZS100 clips limited to 15 minutes, or were you able to hack the cams to film longer clips in 4K?
A super easy "push a few buttons" hack will give you until your card runs out or your battery dies for the ZS100 all in 4K - One big 70+ GB file.

This basically the hack. I can PM you the fine tuned version for the ZS100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxmVDdU1xf0
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2019, 03:44:22 PM »
This footage is shot with 3 ZS100's

I see you're filming in 4K.  So what about the recording limit hack for the ZS100 - are all your ZS100 clips limited to 15 minutes, or were you able to hack the cams to film longer clips in 4K?
A super easy "push a few buttons" hack will give you until your card runs out or your battery dies for the ZS100 all in 4K - One big 70+ GB file.

This basically the hack. I can PM you the fine tuned version for the ZS100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxmVDdU1xf0

PM with the fine tuned hack would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2019, 04:52:25 AM »
I would also welcome a PM with the hack. There's been a few times shooting video of a concert where a band plays an extended medley I reach 13 minutes and start muttering to myself, "Please end the song. Please end the song.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2019, 08:08:05 PM »
I just bought one (ZS100)...got that hack, but any other tips?

I put into 4K 30P
Need to figure out best exposure setting and any other settings...

Concert tomorrow
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 01:35:58 AM »
I just bought one (ZS100)...got that hack, but any other tips?

I put into 4K 30P
Need to figure out best exposure setting and any other settings...

Concert tomorrow

Below are a few of my settings.
Doing this allows you to set a custom function that has exposure control just below your right thumb...super easy quick access and you can adjust it while filming.
The other allows you to have ISO setting right below your thumb as well. All the control you need right there at your thumb tip....

Wrench/C Menu:

Screen 1: Silent mode > on
Screen 2: No Change
Screen 3: Direct focus area > on
Screen 4: Gridline > on
Screen 5: Highlight > on
     zebra pattern > on
Screen 6: No Change
Screen 7: FN Button Set >
     Settings in Record Mode >
     F1 Button (Exposure compensation: on screen #12)
     F2 Button  ISO (On Screen #5)
Screen 8: Eye sensor > LVF/Monitor switch > Monitor
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 05:36:24 AM »
Interesting topic. Checking in to follow
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2019, 05:46:35 AM »
has exposure control just below your right thumb...super easy quick access and you can adjust it while filming.

Wow!  Never heard of being able to make changes on the fly with a point-and-shoot.  This is great news.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2019, 09:55:15 AM »
has exposure control just below your right thumb...super easy quick access and you can adjust it while filming.

Wow!  Never heard of being able to make changes on the fly with a point-and-shoot.  This is great news.

Yes, but only while in 4K mode.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2019, 10:57:26 AM »
Set those for tonight.

Does it always give you the warning triangle when you turn it off?
Since the aperture changes as you zoom does that effect exposure?
No stabilizer at 4K? (True?)
How long should I expect ONE battery to last (No way to get a minutes left on battery on screen?)
Audio: Sound Professionals SP-CMC-10 (AT933s) or CA-14 (Omni & Cards) >
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2019, 11:11:56 AM »
Set those for tonight.

Does it always give you the warning triangle when you turn it off?
Since the aperture changes as you zoom does that effect exposure?
No stabilizer at 4K? (True?)
How long should I expect ONE battery to last (No way to get a minutes left on battery on screen?)

Yes, you always get the triangle.
It  does effect  the exposure slightly. The exposure button under your thumb fixes that instantly if needed.
No stabilizer in 4K sadly.
90 min - maybe a bit more depending on zooming etc...
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Panasonic ZS100 X 3 for Concerts
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2019, 11:15:30 AM »
Thanks! This may be the one to FINALLY replace my HX9V...lol

I am bummed about no stabilizer but we will see tonight.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2019, 11:29:55 AM »
Put you mic setting on high wind...helps with cleaner audio for loud shows.
Here's my complete set up. Scroll through & pick & choose what you like.
If you have any other suggestion I might have missed in set up lmk!

ZS100 Camera Settings:


SET TOP DIAL ON CAMERA TO THE VIDEO CAMERA ICON/M mode:

Video Camera Icon Menu:

screen 1: Record format > MP4 for PC or Other for MAC
Screen 2: Record quality > 4k/30 p
     AF mode > facial recognition
Screen 3: AFF
     Continue AF > on
Screen 4: No change
Screen 5: Silent operation > on
     Wind noise canceller > high
   

Wrench/C Menu:

Screen 1: Silent mode > on
Screen 2: No Change
Screen 3: Direct focus area > on
Screen 4: Gridline > on
Screen 5: Highlight > on
     zebra pattern > on
Screen 6: No Change
Screen 7: FN Button Set >
     Settings in Record Mode >
     F1 Button (Exposure compensation: on screen #12)
     F2 Button  ISO (On Screen #5)
Screen 8: Eye sensor > LVF/Monitor switch > Monitor



PUT TOP DIAL ON CAMERA ON (M) MANUAL MODE:

Screen 1: Aspect ratio > 3.2
     Picture Size > L20
     Quality > RAW + .JPG SF
Screen 2: AF Mode > Facial Recognition
     AFF
Screen 3: No Change
Screen 4: No Change
Screen 5: No Change
Screen 6: ISO Increments > 1/3
Screen 7: No Change
Screen 8: Stabilizer > ON
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Pre-Amps: Naiant Tinybox 2.2 o/t x2
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Recorders: Tascam DR-2d x 4
Panasonic ZS100 X 3 for Concerts
Sony AX100
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2019, 11:39:16 AM »
So for those Wrench C settings, the dial on top is on C?

I did that.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2019, 11:44:49 AM »
So for those Wrench C settings, the dial on top is on C?

I did that.

When you hit the menu button the 5 icons on the left of the screen will each
lead to a setting.

1  - camera
2 - video
3 - Wrench-C
4- Wrench
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2019, 11:50:11 AM »
So for those Wrench C settings, the dial on top is on C?

I did that.

Always put the top dial on the Video Camera/M icon to shoot 4K on the camera.
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Panasonic ZS100 X 3 for Concerts
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2019, 12:26:25 PM »
So handheld at 370mm, no stabilizer...ummm. Does anyone use stabilizing in post? I have tried it in Vegas 13, and it helps, but wondering how much it effects the final quality.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2019, 03:27:19 PM »
How long should I expect ONE battery to last (No way to get a minutes left on battery on screen?)

90 min - maybe a bit more depending on zooming etc...

Any difference in OEM battery life vs Wasabi Power batteries?
Mics: CA-11 (omnis and cards) & AT853 cards
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2019, 03:35:53 PM »
So handheld at 370mm, no stabilizer...ummm. Does anyone use stabilizing in post? I have tried it in Vegas 13, and it helps, but wondering how much it effects the final quality.

I've tried a few of them over the years and never got a result that I thought was worth the trouble.  It always seemed like a double edged sword ... the stabilizer fixes one problem ... but creates another (equally or more) annoying problem.

How far from the stage will you be shooting?  I just bought it and haven't used it yet, but I plan on using the ZS100 when I'm somewhere other than the cheap seats.  If I'm in the cheap seats where security is much less of a concern, I will film with my camcorder (Sony AX100).
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2019, 07:33:55 PM »
How long should I expect ONE battery to last (No way to get a minutes left on battery on screen?)

90 min - maybe a bit more depending on zooming etc...

Any difference in OEM battery life vs Wasabi Power batteries?

I have only used OEM's as I learned years ago with my 35mm camera that the non OEM's usually
let me down at critical moments.
Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps MK5's
Pre-Amps: Naiant Tinybox 2.2 o/t x2
Cables: Nbob Actives V1 & V2
Recorders: Tascam DR-2d x 4
Panasonic ZS100 X 3 for Concerts
Sony AX100
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2019, 12:42:41 PM »
So I was pretty impressed. No stabilizer wasn't much of an issue, even zoomed all the way in. (Granted I had a rail) House of Blues had the stage majorly backlit, so I had it on ISO800 and about plus 2 exposure. The footage looks a little grainy but sharp. The grain goes away as soon as the stage is lit. I chose to change to manual focus and used the button to occasionally have it auto focus.

Is there a way to lock the aperture in video to 5.8 so it stays more constant? It was brighter when I zoom out, and I don't want to have to keep adjusting the exposure. And any tricks to reduce the grain or should I just worry about that in post (or chock it up to the poor performer lighting?) I will post a video shortly once it's rendered.

Thanks Datfly!
(and yes I plan on using it for U2)
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2019, 01:45:08 PM »
Great thread, thanks for the tips shared in here. Might finally pick up a ZS100 at some point. For pics only the Sony HX90 does a pretty decent job in manual mode.

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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2019, 03:34:04 PM »

Is there a way to lock the aperture in video to 5.8 so it stays more constant?

If you put it in Aperture Priority Mode (A on dial) you can set the aperture wherever you want and it will stay constant.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2019, 07:02:50 PM »
Here is my first attempt

Metric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppKXQHuZ5iQ


This was 800iso, so I will try and get down to 400, and expose it up as much as I can. Again, super backlit too.

I use Vegas to output, any suggested bitrate to keep it from being massive uploads? (I am exporting at 4K 50,000,000 bit rate...)
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2019, 06:48:09 AM »
Nice, what's the audio source ?

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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2019, 11:38:45 AM »
How long should I expect ONE battery to last (No way to get a minutes left on battery on screen?)

90 min - maybe a bit more depending on zooming etc...

Any difference in OEM battery life vs Wasabi Power batteries?

I have only used OEM's as I learned years ago with my 35mm camera that the non OEM's usually
let me down at critical moments.

I currently use a Wasabi with a Lumix GH3.
I can't tell any difference between it and OEM.
YMMV.

I've had other 3rd party batteries that were terrible.
I also prefer to stick with OEM batteries..  but the Wasabi came in a package deal and it's been solid.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2019, 04:47:08 PM »
I probably should have titled this post "Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS100" instead of "Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200."  :bigsmile:
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2019, 01:08:55 PM »
Ordered a ZS100 this week at Amazon.  FedEx left it at the door ... but it's no where to be found.  Fucking package thieves.  Amazon quickly provided a full refund though.  Ugg ...
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2019, 05:17:36 PM »
Nice, what's the audio source ?

That clip of mine is just the camera audio. Nice upgrade over the Sony I had as well. My videos labeled "HQ Audio" have dubbed audio from a separate source.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2019, 07:56:52 AM »
Just a couple of questions. 

Put you mic setting on high wind...helps with cleaner audio for loud shows.
Here's my complete set up. Scroll through & pick & choose what you like.
If you have any other suggestion I might have missed in set up lmk!

ZS100 Camera Settings:


SET TOP DIAL ON CAMERA TO THE VIDEO CAMERA ICON/M mode:

Video Camera Icon Menu:

screen 1: Record format > MP4 for PC or Other for MAC
Screen 2: Record quality > 4k/30 p
     AF mode > facial recognition
Screen 3: AFF
     Continue AF > on
Screen 4: No change
Screen 5: Silent operation > on
     Wind noise canceller > high
   

Wrench/C Menu:

Screen 1: Silent mode > on
Screen 2: No Change
Screen 3: Direct focus area > on
Screen 4: Gridline > on -- I see "guide line" but not "gridline"
Screen 5: Highlight > on
     zebra pattern > on -- there is zebra pattern 1 and zebra pattern 2 - does it make any difference which one you choose?
Screen 6: No Change
Screen 7: FN Button Set >
     Settings in Record Mode >
     F1 Button (Exposure compensation: on screen #12)
     F2 Button  ISO (On Screen #5)
Screen 8: Eye sensor > LVF/Monitor switch > Monitor



PUT TOP DIAL ON CAMERA ON (M) MANUAL MODE:

Screen 1: Aspect ratio > 3.2
     Picture Size > L20
     Quality > RAW + .JPG SF
Screen 2: AF Mode > Facial Recognition
     AFF
Screen 3: No Change
Screen 4: No Change
Screen 5: No Change
Screen 6: ISO Increments > 1/3
Screen 7: No Change
Screen 8: Stabilizer > ON -- I see two different stabilization options "up & down" and "vertical & horizontal" - which one should I choose?

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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2019, 08:48:44 AM »
Screen 7: FN Button Set >
     Settings in Record Mode >
     F1 Button (Exposure compensation: on screen #12)
     F2 Button  ISO (On Screen #5)

Could you please explain ISO when shooting concerts vids with the ZS100?  I understand how exposure works, but I'm shaky on the ISO adjustments.  Thanks.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2019, 10:44:04 PM »
ISO is, in an extremely simplified way, helping raise or lower brightness in your image. Lower ISO values, lets say 100-400, are general used in situations where lighting is very good. Situations like direct sunlight, or other well-lit scenarios. Higher ISO values, 800-6400 (or higher depending on your camera), are normally used when lighting is low to poor. For example, dusk, indoor lightning, concerts. Lower ISO values have a cleaner image if used correctly with aperature and exposure. Higher ISO values will create "noise" in the image; that grainy, red speckled image that occurs when the sensor is working hard to process the image. Hope that helps explain it somewhat!
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 (edit: mostly about ZS100 though)
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2019, 08:20:54 AM »
One thing I've noticed about the ZS100 is that it doesn't have "grippy" contact points in the spots where your fingers typically come in contact with the camera while you're holding it.  I'm going to try a couple of things to remedy this:

https://www.amazon.com/dragon-Grips-Adhesive-Backed-Rubber/dp/B07GJV6HYC

I'll likely affix a small piece of grip tape for my left index finger above the viewfinder (being careful not to cover the left mic input) and maybe another piece on the bottom of the camera for my left thumb.  I'll also put a piece on the front of the camera where my right index and middle fingers typically grip the camera, and possibly another very small piece for my right thumb to the left of the Fn1 button and above the Fn2 button. 

Alternatively, I'm also thinking about getting a "Flipbac FBG3 Camera Grip" for the front of the camera:

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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 (edit: mostly about ZS100 though)
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2019, 11:27:16 AM »
Got the grip tape in today's mail.  Definitely feels less slippery.  Here's how it looks with it applied:





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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 (edit: mostly about ZS100 though)
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2019, 10:13:03 AM »
In a pinch, gaff tape can work as "grip tape" too.  Makes a camera less slippery.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 (edit: mostly about ZS100 though)
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2019, 10:30:00 AM »
For the life of me, I can't remember how to get to manual focus while shooting 4K video.  I had it working once, but got to it while trying various combinations of buttons and can't remember how I got there.  Using the right index finger to turn the control ring is really easy and I think being able to shoot with manual focus during shows could really be beneficial at times.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200 (edit: mostly about ZS100 though)
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2019, 05:25:48 AM »
Has anyone run into an issue with the electronic viewfinder of the ZS100 suddenly turning white. It's not affecting the video or photos being shot/recorded. It's just that suddenly a wash of white covers the EVF when use the zoom.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2019, 01:30:29 PM »
How long should I expect ONE battery to last (No way to get a minutes left on battery on screen?)

90 min - maybe a bit more depending on zooming etc...

Any difference in OEM battery life vs Wasabi Power batteries?

I have only used OEM's as I learned years ago with my 35mm camera that the non OEM's usually
let me down at critical moments.

I currently use a Wasabi with a Lumix GH3.
I can't tell any difference between it and OEM.
YMMV.

I've had other 3rd party batteries that were terrible.
I also prefer to stick with OEM batteries..  but the Wasabi came in a package deal and it's been solid.

Just a bit of a follow-up regarding batteries ...

I recorded a show the other night with a Wasabi battery and stopped after 1hr 39 mins of continuous recording in 4K, that included frequent zooms in/out.  The camera was still running fine but I knew the battery must be running low, so I decided to make the switch.  I followed that with another 1 hr 10 mins of recording.  I've recorded in 4K for ~3 hrs continuously (minus 30 sec battery change) several times now without any problems at all.
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