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New Sound Devices 16 channel
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2019, 11:01:57 AM »
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I’m guessing 3k - 4K easy.
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I’m guessing 3k - 4K easy.

"most powerful product ever designed by SD..."

more like, double that (my guess)
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According to Gotham Audio ->

retails for $8,995 and is expected to be available second quarter 2019



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Re: New Sound Devices 16 channel
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2019, 01:28:21 PM »
entire taper sections replaced with one deck lol
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Anyone need a kidney .I got an extra for 8995.00

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Potential purchasers should factor into the cost the fact that this will make you want to buy more mics to fill up those channels  ;)
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looks cool, but can't imagine any tapers would have a need for 32 channels? even if you're running 4 sets of mics and a board feed (which is rather extreme to begin with), a mixpre-10T would serve just fine.

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looks cool, but can't imagine any tapers would have a need for 32 channels? even if you're running 4 sets of mics and a board feed (which is rather extreme to begin with), a mixpre-10T would serve just fine.

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I've suspected as much for years but am now convinced SD has some sort of thing about only providing a limited number of standard-size XLR mic connectors on their multichannel gear.  Only 6 on this?  They couldn't fit just 2 more for 8?  Really?  I can rearrange the side layout in the photo to fit them in pretty easily.  Shift the headphone jacks down and make the side dimension of the unit just 3/8" to 1/2" longer and they will fit in line with the other 6.

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"Mix-pre 10 does provide 8", notes the taper supervisor.

Potential purchasers should factor into the cost the fact that this will make you want to buy more mics to fill up those channels  ;)

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Anyone need a kidney .I got an extra for 8995.00

An oddly precise figure you want for your Kidney ;-)

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I do want this so badly! However with that price $$$, I don't think it is on the cards for me this year.

The only thing which strikes me as very strange that I don't like (aside from the price! ha) is why so few AES inputs?? Odd for a recorder of this class in 2019

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looks cool, but can't imagine any tapers would have a need for 32 channels? even if you're running 4 sets of mics and a board feed (which is rather extreme to begin with), a mixpre-10T would serve just fine.

This deck isn’t for taper dudes. 😎 This is marketed directly to production sound mixers (film/video) like IronFilm.  Six full-size XLR mic inputs is all you need for film.  The balance of channels is likely to be wireless.  I wonder if this can simultaneously do playback while recording—that’s becoming a real set requirement that Zaxcom and Aaton can do.  Congrats to SD—this thing looks awesome, with a tiny form factor ta boot.

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Price isn’t that surprising considering a new 788t goes for $6849.

Nice, but I don’t need that capacity.  And as noted, geared more for production sound.
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Price isn’t that surprising considering a new 788t goes for $6849.

Nice, but I don’t need that capacity.  And as noted, geared more for production sound.

I strongly doubt there are many 788T being sold new at full price, most people would rather buy new a 688

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I strongly doubt there are many 788T being sold new at full price, most people would rather buy new a 688

A friend of mine is a camera op for a major sports broadcasting network in the US. They buy 10 -20 new 788s every year. Dont underestimate the deep pockets of the broadcast industry. Not everyone is an independent stuck with a Zoom.

He did tell me not long ago that they are considering replacing the 788s with something new and this new deck may be it.
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I guess those broadcast guys who are working for big companies which are set in their ways and don't want to bother trying anything different

But for any individuals buying it for themselves?? I doubt it

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Anyone need a kidney .I got an extra for 8995.00

An oddly precise figure you want for your Kidney ;-)

I'd ask for more but there's a lot of miles on it

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looks cool, but can't imagine any tapers would have a need for 32 channels? even if you're running 4 sets of mics and a board feed (which is rather extreme to begin with), a mixpre-10T would serve just fine.

Even in the film world (that the Scorpio is targeted at) many many users will never use all 32 channels, they'd be buying the Scorpio for its many other benefits and often be running just a couple to ten ish or so channels at once on many shoots.

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Going to make a wild guess today for when the "Scorpio Micro" will happen, am thinking: late 2020 or earlier it will ship! (fingers crossed)



Sound Devices was impressive in pushing out heaps of MixPre recorders quickly. But if we ignore the M variants, as they're just "small" differences, then they had three: 3 / 6 / 10T. 



The last of them was the MixPre10T, which has a roughly year and half gap between the 10T shipping and when Scorpio will ship. 



Thus if we figure out a similar product development cycle for the next big release then this will come in late 2020, which is roughly a year and half from now. 



However hopefully the product development for a "Scorpio Micro" will be faster than making the Scorpio from scratch (which is totally different to the MixPre10T which came just before it!), so maaaaaybe we can see a Scorpio Micro at NAB 2020? ;-)

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looks cool, but can't imagine any tapers would have a need for 32 channels? even if you're running 4 sets of mics and a board feed (which is rather extreme to begin with), a mixpre-10T would serve just fine.

Depends on what kind of "taping" you're doing. Most everything I do these days is multitrack, rather than board/room, so this would be welcome. That said, I can't justify spending $9,000 on it.

 

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