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Stealth Rig Woes
« on: April 07, 2019, 10:59:36 AM »
Hey all it’s been a while. Recently I busted out my stealth rig and now even very small venues are using wands. So I was bummed I had to leave the gear in the car for one of my favorite artists (I do t get out much anymore). My current rig: DPA 4061 -> Church Audio 9100 -> micro track. I would like to be able to put DPA into iPhone if there is something that can get through a light wand search at the door.

Thanks for the input.

Jay

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2019, 11:31:04 AM »
I have only heard of the DPA MMA-A, owned by some in this forum. No idea if it will go unnoticed. I personally like my Sennheiser Ambeo Smart Headset which plugs directly into the iPhone and passes for regular headphones. I don't record loud music, so wouldn't know if it would work for that.
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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2019, 12:46:04 PM »
DPA d:vice.

There is a long thread about it here:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=181868.0

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2019, 01:06:08 PM »
You should be able to get your current rig past wands and walkthroughs.  Methods and sources should be discussed via pm though.  I easily walk in with a babynbox, Schoeps MK4's and Tascam DR-2D which is a bit larger I believe.

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2019, 08:46:50 PM »
You should be able to get your current rig past wands and walkthroughs.  Methods and sources should be discussed via pm though.  I easily walk in with a babynbox, Schoeps MK4's and Tascam DR-2D which is a bit larger I believe.

I was thinking the same thing. My rig is about the same size as OP's. I've never had a problem unless I was being careless or got to ballsy.

That being said...if OP already has the DPA's, the d:vice is almost fool proof for getting into any venue (with maybe the exception of an artist that requires people to check their phones).
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||| DECKS: Sound Devices MixPre6 | Sony M10 |||
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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2019, 07:21:47 AM »
d:vice is compact, powers the dpas properly, and has ton of clean gain, its a great unit. has 60g of aluminum in the case but ive gone thru walkthru with it in my pocket

if you already have 4061s with microdots and an iphone its a logical step
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small: MK4V/41V > CMR > Tinybox or PiP Squeak or J.Williams Mod MicMan Jr or no pre at all >AD2K or R07 or PCM-A10
smaller: 4061/4099 CORE > d:vice MMA

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shop: Musical Fidelity VLink 192 Asynchronyous> coax> DAC1 > Rokit RP8 active monitors

current goals:making CMR+battery box rig interface with d:vice

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2019, 07:24:25 AM »
You should be able to get your current rig past wands and walkthroughs.  Methods and sources should be discussed via pm though.  I easily walk in with a babynbox, Schoeps MK4's and Tascam DR-2D which is a bit larger I believe.

I guess I never went for it. I assumed the wand would go off but I guess there is not much solid metal in those pieces. I will follow up in case there is a method component to it...
You should be able to get your current rig past wands and walkthroughs.  Methods and sources should be discussed via pm though.  I easily walk in with a babynbox, Schoeps MK4's and Tascam DR-2D which is a bit larger I believe.

I was thinking the same thing. My rig is about the same size as OP's. I've never had a problem unless I was being careless or got to ballsy.

That being said...if OP already has the DPA's, the d:vice is almost fool proof for getting into any venue (with maybe the exception of an artist that requires people to check their phones).

Thanks.

d:vice is compact, powers the dpas properly, and has ton of clean gain, its a great unit. has 60g of aluminum in the case but ive gone thru walkthru with it in my pocket

if you already have 4061s with microdots and an iphone its a logical step

The DPA device looks interesting but it sounds like I may be able to move on through with my existing rig but I will keep it in mind. Thanks

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 11:18:13 AM »
if you want to stick with a dedicated recorder and spend a little less $ (the d:vice is not cheap at $660), the DPA rig i'm putting together is, i think, the stealthiest way you can construct a DPA rig while still using a dedicated recorder and retaining the microdot terminations:

DPAs of your choice (4060/61, 6060/61) > custom y-cable > 9v batt box > small recorder of your choice (Roland R-07, Sony PCM-A10, etc.).

my particular rig is going to be 6061s > y-cable > SP-SPSB-8-MKII > R-07. the y-cable is the trickiest part as you have to either buy it pre-made from Core Sound or have it custom-made to order. the cable, batt box and recorder can be done for around half the cost of a d:vice depending on the options you choose. the advantage of retaining the microdot terminations is that you can then run them into a d:vice someday if you decide to get one, or continue to run into other preamps that accept microdots, as compared to getting the DPAs terminated into an 1/8" plug locks you into running that way only. and doing it this way will be tiny and nearly all plastic -- no worries on metal detectors (not sure how much metal is in a CA-9100 and microtrack, by comparison, but they definitely appear bulkier).

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2019, 08:56:27 PM »
the Rode SC6-L seems promising, jut need to make some cables from your batt box

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=187401.0
in:
small: MK4V/41V > CMR > Tinybox or PiP Squeak or J.Williams Mod MicMan Jr or no pre at all >AD2K or R07 or PCM-A10
smaller: 4061/4099 CORE > d:vice MMA

out:
home:Benchmark DAC1 HGC > Dynaudio BM15A active monitors
shop: Musical Fidelity VLink 192 Asynchronyous> coax> DAC1 > Rokit RP8 active monitors

current goals:making CMR+battery box rig interface with d:vice

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Re: Stealth Rig Woes
« Reply #9 on: Today at 04:35:37 PM »
you can buy female microdot cables precrimped, cut them and solder them into a single trs plug yourself. as far as i know, the microdot crimp tool is a few hundred dollars






 
if you want to stick with a dedicated recorder and spend a little less $ (the d:vice is not cheap at $660), the DPA rig i'm putting together is, i think, the stealthiest way you can construct a DPA rig while still using a dedicated recorder and retaining the microdot terminations:

DPAs of your choice (4060/61, 6060/61) > custom y-cable > 9v batt box > small recorder of your choice (Roland R-07, Sony PCM-A10, etc.).

my particular rig is going to be 6061s > y-cable > SP-SPSB-8-MKII > R-07. the y-cable is the trickiest part as you have to either buy it pre-made from Core Sound or have it custom-made to order. the cable, batt box and recorder can be done for around half the cost of a d:vice depending on the options you choose. the advantage of retaining the microdot terminations is that you can then run them into a d:vice someday if you decide to get one, or continue to run into other preamps that accept microdots, as compared to getting the DPAs terminated into an 1/8" plug locks you into running that way only. and doing it this way will be tiny and nearly all plastic -- no worries on metal detectors (not sure how much metal is in a CA-9100 and microtrack, by comparison, but they definitely appear bulkier).
in:
small: MK4V/41V > CMR > Tinybox or PiP Squeak or J.Williams Mod MicMan Jr or no pre at all >AD2K or R07 or PCM-A10
smaller: 4061/4099 CORE > d:vice MMA

out:
home:Benchmark DAC1 HGC > Dynaudio BM15A active monitors
shop: Musical Fidelity VLink 192 Asynchronyous> coax> DAC1 > Rokit RP8 active monitors

current goals:making CMR+battery box rig interface with d:vice

 

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