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Recording a house concert tomorrow night, using Schoeps MSTC64. Will only have a boom mic stand because travel, and likely will have to be close to the cellist.

Any/all advice appreciated!

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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2019, 10:38:37 PM »
Unaccompanied, or with a keyboard instrument?
music > microphones > a recorder of some sort

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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2019, 10:45:04 PM »
1 piece with, one without.
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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2019, 12:26:47 PM »
The reason I asked is, unaccompanied instruments can be miked somewhat more closely, because you only need to consider the balance between direct sound and reverberance. But the addition of a keyboard instrument creates several problems.

Number one is the balance between them in terms of clarity. For a baroque 'cello, the keyboard instrument would most likely be a harpsichord (or less likely, a clavichord) and the range of size and projection among different harpsichords is considerable. But there is a miking distance in reverberant halls beyond which the sound of any harpsichord degenerates into mostly noise. And depending on the lid position, you may have only a limited range of elevations to choose from.

I would definitely want to record (or at the very least, listen to) a rehearsal in the hall, and have a definite idea of the physical setup of the players, before deciding on the mike setup for the concert. Is that an option for you? If not, then can you at least talk to the players and make some napkin sketches to get an idea of where your mikes could go?

Also, what's the hall like, in terms of its sonic character?
music > microphones > a recorder of some sort

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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2019, 12:34:36 PM »
Not sure this is going to go well, the hall is my father's living room in Berkeley. 9' ceiling, 500 square foot rectangle.

He's 85 today, and his friends from Philharmonia Baroque Orchestra are playing for him.

He's always wondered about my recording hobby, and I thought this'd be a fun way to share it with him.

Might be that I just focus on the solo cello pieces, and try my best to get the placement right for the piece with the harpsichord.

Appreciate your help, as always!

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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2019, 01:04:47 PM »
Happy Birthday to the big #85!
Cool that you can share your hobby with him today!

I'd say find a safe place to set up your mikes so nobody bothers them or trips on them and hit record and enjoy recording some nice music in your dad's living room.
Don't stress over it..  set levels conservatively so you don't need to obsess over watching levels.
Take it as a nice opportunity to record with your dad...  and hopefully you'll end up with a recording that you can play for your dad which might just justify your crazy taper tendencies.   ;)

...or go for the best recording that you can make!

Either way..  good luck.. and enjoy!
« Last Edit: April 08, 2019, 01:14:12 PM by yug du nord »
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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2019, 01:13:42 PM »
Go for Baroque!!!
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Re: Baroque cello concert using period instrument, mic placement tips?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 03:57:44 AM »
Amazing music and wonderful time.

Editing recording, sounds very nice. Ended up positioning mics prioritizing the cellos, worked nicely with and without piano.
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