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decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« on: April 08, 2019, 07:57:32 PM »
cant remember where i read it but there were some mics that can do decent hi spl below 2V, it was some brand i never heard of. also i think some church and SP mics can run on PIP with acceptable results. ive seen several recorders with PIP in the 2-3V range, which is a little low for 4063s which are relatively expensive as well

they dont need to be off-the-shelf necessarily. if resistor mods can help accomplish the same thing, they are fair game

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 11:22:44 AM »
Though I'm not optimistic about the results, I will be testing the Sennheiser MKE2 mics this Friday with only PiP from my Roland R-05.  If by some miracle they perform well, I'll be shouting from the mountaintop about it.
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 11:45:31 AM »
Though I'm not optimistic about the results, I will be testing the Sennheiser MKE2 mics this Friday with only PiP from my Roland R-05.  If by some miracle they perform well, I'll be shouting from the mountaintop about it.

I had great results running mine with PIP from the MixPre 6 at a John Kadlecik solo acoustic show, though it wasn't a loud show at all.

Here's a sample of the first set (mke2 only): https://drive.google.com/file/d/13KCB7E_cEfybdPuEvYeQ_g3-4qSLL1hr/view?usp=sharing

If all goes well, I'll be taping a few shows at 420 Fest next week so I'll have more examples after that.
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 11:55:15 AM »
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 01:38:24 PM »
AKG CK77’s can run off 1.5V and handle pretty reasonable SPLs, though do best with 9-12v. They are omni’s.

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 10:56:26 AM »
Though I'm not optimistic about the results, I will be testing the Sennheiser MKE2 mics this Friday with only PiP from my Roland R-05.  If by some miracle they perform well, I'll be shouting from the mountaintop about it.

I have a pair of MKE2s that I run on the plug-in power from a Marantz PMD620.  Works great.  Really minimalist too...

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 03:50:37 PM »
MKE2s confuse me. It seems like there are a number of models and the documentation in on what the difference is,  isn’t all that great
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2019, 04:24:42 PM »
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 08:55:06 AM »
MKE2s confuse me. It seems like there are a number of models and the documentation in on what the difference is,  isn’t all that great

You're not the only one.  They have made quite a few models and they have also varied over the long time they have been part of the Sennheiser lineup.

The ones I have are 10 mV/Pa and can run to spec on quite low voltages, but I have seen others with completely different specs.

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 07:43:00 PM »
countryman B3's do alright in PIP on my M10. Not sure of the SPL but I think around 130 sounds close. Low voltage. Lots of termination options.

I've since read 140 dB w/p48 power. 'Not sure it is w/lower volts.
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