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Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« on: April 27, 2019, 02:18:20 PM »
So, I will make a record attempt at a gig in the near future. Wanted to check with the more experienced people here if my settings are optimal, they are as follow. I will not use Phantom powered mics, so it's the internal ones:

Input Setting/
Input: MIC
Gain: High
Type: Stereo
Power: OFF
Low Cut: OFF
Level Ctrl: OFF

Rec Setting/
Format: WAV 24bit
Sample: 44.1k (increased my rec time with 11 mins compared to 48k which should be near precise to be able to record the whole show)
Size: 2G
Pre Rec: OFF
Delay: OFF

Size: 2G, is that the max. filesize before creating a new file? If so, does it create it instantly so that it won't be any gap in the recording?

Thanks for the help!  ::)

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 03:07:08 PM »
if its an amplified rock gig, I might tend to turn the gain off or at least down to avoid distortion.  also if there is a setting to use the internal mics make sure its on.
The input : mic implies to me that its using an external mic.   

best suggestion try it before at a bar gig or at least using your home stereo to evaluate the results before it matters. 
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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 04:04:22 PM »
if its an amplified rock gig, I might tend to turn the gain off or at least down to avoid distortion.  also if there is a setting to use the internal mics make sure its on.
The input : mic implies to me that its using an external mic.   

best suggestion try it before at a bar gig or at least using your home stereo to evaluate the results before it matters.

Well it's the great Mr. Mark Knopfler, so rock gig indeed. So you recommend gain down/off?

I think it says MIC regardless of internal/external mic. The setting called Power must be turned ON when using external, I am using internals so it is set to OFF.
The only choices you have here is MIC/LINE.

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 04:23:06 PM »
Good show to test out your settings since if you mess it up, at least you can buy the soundboard.

I agree that the Gain should be turned off (or down). I never used the internals with a DR07, but I would think that the gain would only be needed for recording something like a speech or un-amplified show.

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2019, 04:28:46 PM »
Good show to test out your settings since if you mess it up, at least you can buy the soundboard.

I agree that the Gain should be turned off (or down). I never used the internals with a DR07, but I would think that the gain would only be needed for recording something like a speech or un-amplified show.

Thanks for your answer. Yes, I think the same, worth a try since he has agreed on taping shows for private use.
I changed Gain to MID, but if it is even better with LOW, I'll go for that  8)

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2019, 07:28:28 PM »
I think having some practice runs would be helpful.  If you just recorded your own stereo, use the settings, use the menus, get familiar with what you can do when recording and what you can’t do while recording.  I would just try to learn the gear that you’re using.  I haven’t been taping too long, but doing it is really the only way to get more familiar with it.  Being at shows and not knowing how to work out an issue is very stressful, but it’s also how I learn how to not do things as well.  Have fun, and welcome to the rabbit hole!
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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2019, 07:41:18 PM »
Good show to test out your settings since if you mess it up, at least you can buy the soundboard.

I agree that the Gain should be turned off (or down). I never used the internals with a DR07, but I would think that the gain would only be needed for recording something like a speech or un-amplified show.

Thanks for your answer. Yes, I think the same, worth a try since he has agreed on taping shows for private use.
I changed Gain to MID, but if it is even better with LOW, I'll go for that  8)

The DR-07 allows for adjustments of gain within a given gain setting, correct? If so, I recommend using LOW setting and then adjusting the gain accordingly within that parameter.

Better to have too quiet a pull and increase gain in post than have clipping.
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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2019, 12:49:14 PM »
Good show to test out your settings since if you mess it up, at least you can buy the soundboard.

I agree that the Gain should be turned off (or down). I never used the internals with a DR07, but I would think that the gain would only be needed for recording something like a speech or un-amplified show.

Thanks for your answer. Yes, I think the same, worth a try since he has agreed on taping shows for private use.
I changed Gain to MID, but if it is even better with LOW, I'll go for that  8)

The DR-07 allows for adjustments of gain within a given gain setting, correct? If so, I recommend using LOW setting and then adjusting the gain accordingly within that parameter.

Better to have too quiet a pull and increase gain in post than have clipping.

Ah, hi and thank you for the answer  8)
Will set to low and do some experimenting

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2019, 12:00:54 PM »
Pick up a pair of Church Audio cards. You're not getting a good recording with that DR07. Knopfler is worth it. If I still had a pair I'd lend them out. 100$ or so and you walk away with 10 times better product. Hell the Knopfler show had to set you back $100, make it worthwhile.

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2019, 07:49:05 AM »
Pick up a pair of Church Audio cards. You're not getting a good recording with that DR07. Knopfler is worth it. If I still had a pair I'd lend them out. 100$ or so and you walk away with 10 times better product. Hell the Knopfler show had to set you back $100, make it worthwhile.

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Those require pre amp/battery box as well, right ?

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2019, 05:51:35 PM »
Pick up a pair of Church Audio cards. You're not getting a good recording with that DR07. Knopfler is worth it. If I still had a pair I'd lend them out. 100$ or so and you walk away with 10 times better product. Hell the Knopfler show had to set you back $100, make it worthwhile.

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Those require pre amp/battery box as well, right ?

Not if the dr07 supplies enough Plug in Power. Others can answer that one.
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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2019, 02:34:19 PM »
For Church mics you will need a battery box
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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2019, 03:33:37 PM »
The DR-07 only supplies around 2.5V pip, so you’ll need a battery box if you want to be sure to avoid distortion with the Church Audio mics.
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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2019, 01:08:20 AM »
So also get Church's Ugly Battery Box (just a little lumpy thing that snaps onto a 9V battery), about $29, when you get the mics. Church mics (I have CA-11)-->Ugly Box-->Line in = a recording you'll enjoy.

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Re: Is my TASCAM DR07 settings OK for recording a live gig?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2019, 06:15:36 PM »
So also get Church's Ugly Battery Box (just a little lumpy thing that snaps onto a 9V battery), about $29, when you get the mics. Church mics (I have CA-11)-->Ugly Box-->Line in = a recording you'll enjoy.

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