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48k for distribution/uploads?
« on: June 05, 2019, 08:50:00 AM »
First of all this isn't about whether 48k sounds better than 44.1k, whether people can actually hear a difference, etc.

I've been recording in 48k for a while now and don't plan on changing that anytime soon.  Before distributing a recording, I've been converting to 44.1k because that's a standard that any playback device (whether someone burns to CD, uses their ipod, etc.) can read.  In this day and age, though, is 44.1k really necessary for compatibility purposes?  Is there anything that won't play 16/48 out of the box?  (I realize that 16/48 can't be burned to CD, but I don't care about burning to CD, and if someone wants to do that they're on their own.)

To be clear, I still plan to convert to 16 bit so the question here is just whether 48k presents any compatibility issues.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2019, 09:00:52 AM »
99% sure only cds need 44.1.   I still convert to 16/44.1 out of habit and for the 2 people who actually burn cds.  majority of folks just stream from archive so sample and bit rate don't matter.  if you're keeping it 48 you might as well keep it 24 as well.  That said Sonos doesn't do 24bit.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2019, 09:33:43 AM »
For a long time, I made 44k versions of everything I transferred that was 48k.

One day I decided it was pointless since hardly anyone listens to actual CDRs anymore.  I then started seeding them as they were, and the 48k tapes remained 48k...

Not a single person has asked me for a 44k version, nor has anyone complained to me not seeding a 44k version.

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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2019, 11:08:09 AM »
I would argue the 24 bits is the important part, not 44.1 etc. So 24/44.1 makes more sense to me than 16/48. Either way, I record at 24/48 and post at 24/48. I find it hard to believe the majority of people care about burning cds. The people who do care or want MP3s etc can convert.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2019, 12:19:37 PM »
Haven't burned a CD in a while, but when I did, I asked about why some lossless legs files were posted at 16/48K, and the reply I got was that most CD burning software can burn 16/48K, which I found to be true.  Whether they were converted to 44.1 on the fly, I can't say.  They all played fine on a CD player.   So I was needlessly resampling to 16/44.1K for CD burning purposes.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2019, 01:18:30 PM »
99% sure only cds need 44.1.   I still convert to 16/44.1 out of habit and for the 2 people who actually burn cds.  majority of folks just stream from archive so sample and bit rate don't matter.  if you're keeping it 48 you might as well keep it 24 as well.  That said Sonos doesn't do 24bit.

Actually, Sonos will play 24/48 FLAC files. That said, I'm not sure if it's doing any resampling. At any rate, my Sonos system plays all of my 24/48 FLAC files.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2019, 03:23:23 PM »
99% sure only cds need 44.1.   I still convert to 16/44.1 out of habit and for the 2 people who actually burn cds.  majority of folks just stream from archive so sample and bit rate don't matter.  if you're keeping it 48 you might as well keep it 24 as well.  That said Sonos doesn't do 24bit.

Actually, Sonos will play 24/48 FLAC files. That said, I'm not sure if it's doing any resampling. At any rate, my Sonos system plays all of my 24/48 FLAC files.

Hmm.  I do not have a sonos (still rocking the squeezeboxes) but that is good to know.  A bit of googling and it seems to be new within the last year or so and does seem to downsample on the fly.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 08:25:51 AM »
I used to record in 24/96k and post both 24/96 and 16/44.  now I just record in 24/48 and only post 24/48.
at this point, I think about 90% (or more) of my uploads are on the archive.  I figure a vast majority of people just stream off that.

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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2019, 02:41:59 PM »
I record to 24/96.  If people cannot figure out how to play it that is their loss.  LOL
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2019, 07:32:41 AM »
CD is archaic.

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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 01:14:46 AM »
I read somewhere... here?... that the 48hz world is alive and well in the video/audio arena. If you record for  video use, I think they what things to end up as a 48hz sample file somewhere down the line, either original or derived. 

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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 02:22:03 AM »
I read somewhere... here?... that the 48hz world is alive and well in the video/audio arena. If you record for  video use, I think they what things to end up as a 48hz sample file somewhere down the line, either original or derived.

It's probably because DVD audio format is 24/48.  DVD isn't dead...yet.  close but not quite.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 08:31:13 AM »
I'm now only doing 24/48 uploads. No one cared or noticed so one less step in my post workflow.  24bit flac plays on virtually any device. It's very, very rare folks are downloading to burn to CD these days.
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Re: 48k for distribution/uploads?
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:35:56 PM »
For recordings that are going into the Live Music Archive, I'm thinking that I'll put the 24-bit version in the Archive, but share the much smaller 16-bit version on Dime or my other sites of choice with a note pointing folks to the 24-bit version.

 

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