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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2019, 11:11:41 AM »
You can get those tubes far cheaper here, and sized to fit the mics you are using.  The 0.79" models are the ones you want for 20mm mic bodies.
https://www.mcmaster.com/shipping-tubes

I bought part 2108T21 for the CM3s, and they fit perfectly.  The next size up would be right for Schoeps CMC and similar mics, and the largest size for shotguns.

I put the mics in these tubes, and then into a Cigar Caddy.  This keeps everything protected, keeps the mics from rattling against each other inside, and avoids the foam contamination DSatz described.

Note that you can fit 4 Line Audio mics in one of those 2-cigar caddys.

I'm probably overthinking this but....Part 2108T21 is .79 inches which works out to 20.66 mm, which as Volt stated is perfect for the CM3's which are 20 mm. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger for part number 2108T24 for the KM184's - .87 inch which  works out to 22.098 mm. The 184's are 22 mm, I'm just concerned that the additional .098 mm won't be big enough to accommodate the Neumann logo badge that is affixed to the body.  Oh well, the tubes are certainly cheap enough to give it a shot.

The length of a CM3 + 184 is a total of approx. 7 1/4". The cigar caddy is 8" long (I assume OD). So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 2-cigar caddy will hold both the CM3's and the 184's. If I can fit both sets securely in the 2-cigar caddy, I'll be golden.

Will report back how it goes
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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2019, 12:31:34 PM »

I'm probably overthinking this but....Part 2108T21 is .79 inches which works out to 20.66 mm, which as Volt stated is perfect for the CM3's which are 20 mm. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger for part number 2108T24 for the KM184's - .87 inch which  works out to 22.098 mm. The 184's are 22 mm, I'm just concerned that the additional .098 mm won't be big enough to accommodate the Neumann logo badge that is affixed to the body.  Oh well, the tubes are certainly cheap enough to give it a shot.

The length of a CM3 + 184 is a total of approx. 7 1/4". The cigar caddy is 8" long (I assume OD). So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 2-cigar caddy will hold both the CM3's and the 184's. If I can fit both sets securely in the 2-cigar caddy, I'll be golden.

Will report back how it goes

On voltronic's recommendation I picked up a couple of the 2108T24 also for my KM184s that will go into my pelican micocase.  They should be here today, I'll report on the fit with the Neumann logo badge too!
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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2019, 12:56:08 PM »

I'm probably overthinking this but....Part 2108T21 is .79 inches which works out to 20.66 mm, which as Volt stated is perfect for the CM3's which are 20 mm. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger for part number 2108T24 for the KM184's - .87 inch which  works out to 22.098 mm. The 184's are 22 mm, I'm just concerned that the additional .098 mm won't be big enough to accommodate the Neumann logo badge that is affixed to the body.  Oh well, the tubes are certainly cheap enough to give it a shot.

The length of a CM3 + 184 is a total of approx. 7 1/4". The cigar caddy is 8" long (I assume OD). So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 2-cigar caddy will hold both the CM3's and the 184's. If I can fit both sets securely in the 2-cigar caddy, I'll be golden.

Will report back how it goes

On voltronic's recommendation I picked up a couple of the 2108T24 also for my KM184s that will go into my pelican micocase.  They should be here today, I'll report on the fit with the Neumann logo badge too!

Also, please note that the website won't calculate shipping. I placed my order today then asked them via the "Contact us" on the site. Got this response:

Hi Daniel,

The estimated shipping cost for your order is $7 and the order will deliver on Monday.

We calculate the shipping charges based upon the actual size, weight and number of packaged required to ship your order.

Until we finalize the ability to obtain shipping estimates on our website, please feel free to e-mail us for a shipping estimate. 

Brian

Ordered four of the tubes; order under $6. I guess having anything shipped for $7 these days isn't terrible. They sure were fast getting back to me.

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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2019, 05:35:22 PM »
FYI, the KM184s fit even with the Neumann badge in the 2108T24 tubes with no issues.
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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2019, 07:24:45 PM »
Suggestion:

Since we now know these tubes can be bought in sizes for various 20 and 22 mm mics, may I suggest changing the thread title to something like:

Storage Tubes for Pencil Mics

That way, other people will be able to find these.  I know I was looking for these for years before coming across the ones from McMaster-Carr.  The only other ones I had ever found were the Schoeps branded ones available at Redding, but they are too long for the tiny Line Audio mics, and of course too narrow for Neumanns.
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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2019, 09:01:48 AM »
Suggestion:

Since we now know these tubes can be bought in sizes for various 20 and 22 mm mics, may I suggest changing the thread title to something like:

Storage Tubes for Pencil Mics

That way, other people will be able to find these.  I know I was looking for these for years before coming across the ones from McMaster-Carr.  The only other ones I had ever found were the Schoeps branded ones available at Redding, but they are too long for the tiny Line Audio mics, and of course too narrow for Neumanns.

That's a great idea. Unfortunately I don't appear to be smart enough to figure out how
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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2019, 09:04:34 AM »
Suggestion:

Since we now know these tubes can be bought in sizes for various 20 and 22 mm mics, may I suggest changing the thread title to something like:

Storage Tubes for Pencil Mics

That way, other people will be able to find these.  I know I was looking for these for years before coming across the ones from McMaster-Carr.  The only other ones I had ever found were the Schoeps branded ones available at Redding, but they are too long for the tiny Line Audio mics, and of course too narrow for Neumanns.

That's a great idea. Unfortunately I don't appear to be smart enough to figure out how

Cancel that. Apparently I'm smarter than I thought :cheers:
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Re: Storage/field container for KM184's or CM3's?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2019, 10:09:07 AM »
Suggestion:

Since we now know these tubes can be bought in sizes for various 20 and 22 mm mics, may I suggest changing the thread title to something like:

Storage Tubes for Pencil Mics

That way, other people will be able to find these.  I know I was looking for these for years before coming across the ones from McMaster-Carr.  The only other ones I had ever found were the Schoeps branded ones available at Redding, but they are too long for the tiny Line Audio mics, and of course too narrow for Neumanns.

That's a great idea. Unfortunately I don't appear to be smart enough to figure out how

Cancel that. Apparently I'm smarter than I thought :cheers:

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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2019, 06:36:46 PM »
McMaster-Carr is so efficient it's almost uncanny. I ordered two tubes from them yesterday afternoon at around 4:30, and they arrived a few minutes ago.
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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2019, 07:09:56 AM »
McMaster-Carr is so efficient it's almost uncanny. I ordered two tubes from them yesterday afternoon at around 4:30, and they arrived a few minutes ago.

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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2019, 07:15:32 AM »
Thanks for the tip on these. They arrived yesterday and are perfect for the 184's.
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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2019, 07:43:11 AM »
Anybody ever try these with 19 mm mics? Is the fit pretty tight with 20mm? I am interested in getting a couple for 4015Cs; the shortest ones are about a half inch too long and the 0.79" is the closest diameter. I figure I can glue a piece of felt or something into the bottom to close the half inch gap...

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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2019, 01:48:12 PM »
Anybody ever try these with 19 mm mics? Is the fit pretty tight with 20mm? I am interested in getting a couple for 4015Cs; the shortest ones are about a half inch too long and the 0.79" is the closest diameter. I figure I can glue a piece of felt or something into the bottom to close the half inch gap...

The fit on the 0.79" is just slightly snug with my CM3s, which are 20mm.  Not snug enough that you would worry about scratching.

As for making up some extra space, I put 3/4" silica gel cylinders in the capsule end, which are good to have on hand anyway.  I had some that came in medication, but you can buy them in large quanities.  You just want to get the 3/4" diameter, which for these comes out to be a 2g size.
https://www.amazon.com/Desiccant-Canister-Approved-Pharmaceutical-Packaging/dp/B07LGFBQZX/
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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2019, 12:17:36 PM »
^ Thanks! That was helpful. I was afraid that if the 20mm had a kind of loose fit, the 19mm might be even worse (although it is only about 1/25th of an inch difference). Especially with something slightly compressible in the ends, it should keep things from moving around too much.

With that in mind, I went ahead and placed an order only to receive this response:

Quote from: McMaster-Carr
Thank you for considering McMaster-Carr for your purchase.  However, we will not accept orders from your facility due to the cost of complying with US export regulations.

Sigh. I must admit I am pretty surprised, as I order stuff from the States all the time. As long as I am willing to absorb the added costs, it has never been a problem.  Oh, well. I will be over there in mid-July, so maybe I will try to get some delivered to my hotel...

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Re: Storage containers for pencil mics - sources and sizes
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2019, 02:49:38 PM »
aaronji, If you wanted, I could forward them to you. PM me if you would like to go that route. It only took a couple of days for mine to arrive.  Probably another week to get from W.V. to your location.
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